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matatuman wrote:double eem wrote:Entire body...including the dashboard.Any idea of the price? Entire body sijui but try your luck hapo grogan side ya mtoni and across the river near where they wash cars. There is a building with a basement full of body parts for all kinds of vehicles. Thanks @matatuman..will check there coming sato.Someone was suggesting sourcing from Uganda.Anybody tried UG?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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To the "usual suspects", I will be in Japan next week- Osaka and Kobe. I might squeeze some time and randa randa abit. Maybe check out the auction houses and get a few contacts. If you have a "wishlist" then drop me a line. We need to demystify auction fees charged by dealers.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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Hallo Guys,
after contemplating, analysing and contemplating again, I decided to take the deep dive into Matatu biz. My new 33-Seater will be on the road soon. BUT many many challenges ahead e.g Kidero Buses, Payless cash systems, KRA tightening the leash....(@Kimiri...whats your take on these challenges??)We shall see. I will keep you posted...
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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Rapudox wrote:Hallo Guys,
after contemplating, analysing and contemplating again, I decided to take the deep dive into Matatu biz. My new 33-Seater will be on the road soon. BUT many many challenges ahead e.g Kidero Buses, Payless cash systems, KRA tightening the leash....(@Kimiri...whats your take on these challenges??)We shall see. I will keep you posted... What route? How much did the body cost you and how long did you wait to have the body built? Which fabricator?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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@Matatuman,
Route 125, Total price from GM @ 4.8M, Body builder was Dodi....and it took almost 5 good months from the time I signed that contract...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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matatuman wrote:To the "usual suspects", I will be in Japan next week- Osaka and Kobe. I might squeeze some time and randa randa abit. Maybe check out the auction houses and get a few contacts. If you have a "wishlist" then drop me a line. We need to demystify auction fees charged by dealers. Way to go!! The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2008 Posts: 215
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Rapudox wrote:Hallo Guys,
after contemplating, analysing and contemplating again, I decided to take the deep dive into Matatu biz. My new 33-Seater will be on the road soon. BUT many many challenges ahead e.g Kidero Buses, Payless cash systems, KRA tightening the leash....(@Kimiri...whats your take on these challenges??)We shall see. I will keep you posted... @Rapudox. Welcome to the club and all the best from myself. I do not think you need to be unduly worried about the challenges that you have mentioned for a number of reasons. First, I am very sceptical that CCN will be able to successfully run a bus company. On the outset, history is against them going by what happened to KBS and also Nyayo buses. Add this to the high level of inefficiency and corruption that characterises service delivery by NCC and what you get is a white elephant waiting to happen. To be honest I think the proposed bus project is another corruption scandal in the making. There are also technical challenges for them given the huge size of buses they are talking about. With the state of traffic jam in many roads in Nairobi I do not think they will get anywhere with those kind of buses. On payless cash systems - I do not think implementing it would be costly to the operator even if the government tried to enforce it. Note that matatu operators have actually been paying tax to KRA in the form of advance tax every year.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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@Kimiri..thank you, when I look back, I wish I joined the club earlier. Nway, better later than never. ABout CCN, those were exactly some of my thoughts...Facts truly are: 1) They lack efficiency, 2) It is a corrupt den 3) Infrastructure in NBI isnt ready yet for these modern type buses 4) Chinese products speak for themselves..he he
5) KBS and NYAYO actually collapsed. 6) If the buses operate on pure time schedules, they will be in for major losses....and if they operate 'Kienyeji style...only taking off when its full...then they have no chance against matatus. WHich Passenger in his right mind will wait for a SLOW Bus to fill up??
6)Matatu interests has deep roots in this government
About cashless pay systems, my biggest worry is that KRA will go beyond the advance Tax per year...and demand say 30% income tax....because now all the payments will be recorded in the system.
I highly doubt whether this system is actually implementable in a country like Kenya...are we going to force the grannies to walk around with payment cards.....
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2008 Posts: 215
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Rapudox wrote:@Kimiri..thank you, when I look back, I wish I joined the club earlier. Nway, better later than never. ABout CCN, those were exactly some of my thoughts...Facts truly are: 1) They lack efficiency, 2) It is a corrupt den 3) Infrastructure in NBI isnt ready yet for these modern type buses 4) Chinese products speak for themselves..he he
5) KBS and NYAYO actually collapsed. 6) If the buses operate on pure time schedules, they will be in for major losses....and if they operate 'Kienyeji style...only taking off when its full...then they have no chance against matatus. WHich Passenger in his right mind will wait for a SLOW Bus to fill up??
6)Matatu interests has deep roots in this government
About cashless pay systems, my biggest worry is that KRA will go beyond the advance Tax per year...and demand say 30% income tax....because now all the payments will be recorded in the system.
I highly doubt whether this system is actually implementable in a country like Kenya...are we going to force the grannies to walk around with payment cards..... I am not an accountant so I stand to be corrected. However my take is that since matatus are actually businesses what the government would go for is taxing your profits. They however do not data on your expenditure and so it is not an easy thing for them to do.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Rapudox wrote:@Matatuman,
Route 125, Total price from GM @ 4.8M, Body builder was Dodi....and it took almost 5 good months from the time I signed that contract...  Congrats Rapudox and welcome to the club. 5 months sounds woefully long, what, in your opinion, caused such a delay? Na hii 4.8m ni nini haswa, chassis only ama plus body? Of this, how much is the body alone? All the best mblo.  Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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