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Greatwall Apartments - whats your take?
madollar
#21 Posted : Friday, November 08, 2013 3:42:37 PM
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Now going for 4 million i.e cash buyers still very tempting
obiero
#22 Posted : Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31:54 PM
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unaeza nunua but sidhani hizo nyumba ziko na foundation! apparently, the contractor did poor work. kindly get independent advise from own professionals before parting with cash

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
madebe
#23 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:44:05 AM
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The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.
Gathige
#24 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:48:46 AM
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madebe wrote:
The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.


@Madebe,Marketers are like those guys selling mitumba- when they say the price is 1k you have to reduce it to like 200bob to arrive at the real price.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
jokes
#25 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 9:40:15 AM
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Lets not over analyze.
If you like and have the money (cash) buy. its a three bed-roomed apartment. The downside is that you have to wait to get your house to be built. 4 million to me is a good deal for a three bed roomed apartment. The location is great if you have the future in mind. This a property that is a guaranteed return on investment especially rents and appreciation. Pay a visit and look around then comment.
If you have to mortgage don't. buy a plot and build.The end payment from mortgages are onerous. you will probably end up paying more than 4 times the value of the house.

Be advised i hold no brief for the company this is a personal opinion.
Pesa Nane
#26 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 3:57:03 PM
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madebe wrote:
The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.

@madebe, What came of the GreatWall Apartments Phase 3? Is it complete? Was it handed over? Good quality?

What is progress of the Phase 2?
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Coolbull
#27 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 5:51:24 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@ kyt..very tru..kenyans should brace themselves for structural failures on these high-rise buildings for sale..not all of them have used qualified and registered consultants in the supervision hence serious flaws within. Buyers should insist on seeing proof of consultant registration and proof of construction supervision e.g site meeting minutes before they commit to buy




@a4architect - you've made me cringe. I was in one building, built next to a road and when cars passed outside one would feel like the vehicles were in the next room. A minor tremor will bring the building down. I think that building was put up by watu wa mkono from a nearby site on their way home.




maka
#28 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 6:30:21 PM
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madebe wrote:
The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.

They have sat on peoples deposits for ages,they were supposed to be complete by Oct last year lakini wapi....
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a4architect.com
#29 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 6:37:36 PM
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Coolbull wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@ kyt..very tru..kenyans should brace themselves for structural failures on these high-rise buildings for sale..not all of them have used qualified and registered consultants in the supervision hence serious flaws within. Buyers should insist on seeing proof of consultant registration and proof of construction supervision e.g site meeting minutes before they commit to buy




@a4architect - you've made me cringe. I was in one building, built next to a road and when cars passed outside one would feel like the vehicles were in the next room. A minor tremor will bring the building down. I think that building was put up by watu wa mkono from a nearby site on their way home.






@coolbull, relax, construction failures are quite rare. In Kenya , unfortunately, anyone, including yourself, can buy land, get round through approvals, hire laborers to construct then sell the houses, all without any professional input form architect/engineer etc and get away with it. The risk is then borne by the buyer. In other countries eg south africa, usa etc its next to impossible to circumvent laid down best practice/procedure for real estate development for sale to the public. I usually get emails from buyers in such situations but the current law doesnt cater for their compensation since its a willing buyer willing seller basis, without any mention to contractor and consultants unlike the best practice internationally whereby there is a fall back position.
The real estate consumer protection laws in kenya need to be revised to be similar to south africa/usa etc to ensure developers follow zero shortcuts before they are allowed to sell to the public.
As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
Pesa Nane
#30 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 7:58:35 PM
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Coolbull wrote:

@a4architect - you've made me cringe. I was in one building, built next to a road and when cars passed outside one would feel like the vehicles were in the next room. A minor tremor will bring the building down. I think that building was put up by watu wa mkono from a nearby site on their way home.

@Coolbull, citizen duty! Name and shame before they collapse on us.

@a4architect, is this project suspect?
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
a4architect.com
#31 Posted : Tuesday, May 06, 2014 8:03:48 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Coolbull wrote:

@a4architect - you've made me cringe. I was in one building, built next to a road and when cars passed outside one would feel like the vehicles were in the next room. A minor tremor will bring the building down. I think that building was put up by watu wa mkono from a nearby site on their way home.

@Coolbull, citizen duty! Name and shame before they collapse on us.

@a4architect, is this project suspect?


@pesa nane, the only fool proof method to check on structural integrity of a project is to ask the seller if he can give you the structural engineer's contacts so that you can verify his capacity to design such a structure. Verification is simple. If he is registered by ERB, then its safely assumed he can handle such a building. You can go further and consult an independent structural engineer for a more deeper analysis. Currently, there is a machine that structural engineers connect to a laptop then it automatically gives the structural design of the building, like sort of an x ray where it analyses how the chumas inside have been set up. Such analyses are good for people who are buying a complete building as opposed to an individual apartment whereby the risk is quite small.
As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
Swenani
#32 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:02:24 PM
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Going for Kshs 4.8 Million in 2016.

Fixed interest rate of 5.5% per year.Max installments of 25 years
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Horton
#33 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:00:05 PM
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@swenani/ others anyone know what the rental market in this area is like? Yields? How hard is it to get a Tenant ?
maka
#34 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:10:12 PM
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Horton wrote:
@swenani/ others anyone know what the rental market in this area is like? Yields? How hard is it to get a Tenant ?


rent is like 25-28k....phase 3
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Horton
#35 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:03:30 PM
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Thanks maka. Not bad. 6% but i dont expect much capital appreciation there.
obiero
#36 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:30:02 PM
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Horton wrote:
@swenani/ others anyone know what the rental market in this area is like? Yields? How hard is it to get a Tenant ?

Tenant kukosa nairobi ngumu

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
rurinjaa
#37 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2016 5:36:00 AM
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Hi good people of Wazua. How much would a two bedroom bungalow with a front yard and a small backyard cost in Imara Daima. The owner is asking 7m, has a pathway to the backyard close to the railway station and all fenced in by a stone wall. price is a little negotiable but would like to know what is the going price of similar houses in the neighborhood. Any help?
Horton
#38 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2016 6:29:29 AM
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obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
@swenani/ others anyone know what the rental market in this area is like? Yields? How hard is it to get a Tenant ?

Tenant kukosa nairobi ngumu

Mr obiero the middle markets eg kilimani are struggling with a glut rent coming down there
obiero
#39 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2016 6:49:01 AM
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Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
@swenani/ others anyone know what the rental market in this area is like? Yields? How hard is it to get a Tenant ?

Tenant kukosa nairobi ngumu

Mr obiero the middle markets eg kilimani are struggling with a glut rent coming down there

Rent coming down. Not that wamekosa tenants

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ryko
#40 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2016 1:28:54 AM
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Got a house near greatwall. I think there lots of apartments mushrooming around and they keep growing. The apartments around are also not full camden(share a wall with great wall), Bluebell safcom (opposite greatwall) and they still building others.
I think the rents will come down or stay low in the long run. Unless the railway projects makes more people to move towards the area.
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