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Kaigangio
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:29:33 PM
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In Kikuyu

....Mùndù mùrùme kùgwata ùrìa ùngì nì mùgiro mùnene mùno ùtarì horohio...

Translates thus...if a man f****d another man (either with consent or none), this is an extremely deep taboo that has no custom or traditional remedy...Laughing out loudly smile Sad Sad

To right the situation the two men are supposed to fight up until one of them is killed by the other.Pray Pray

How do other African tribes treat this anomalous behaviour??

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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mpobiz
#2 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 6:40:07 PM
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Wewe nugu kabisa. What you are trying to imply is that this behaviour existed in the Kikuyu community long before the white man come here.
the phrase you are referring to is from religious texts that come after colonialism. As for the punishment this shows how good a day dreamer you are.
What I know existed as an abnormal sexual behaviour was some level of bestiality where young boys would engage with goats and sheep while grazing them away from the village. The act was not encouraged and whoever was caught some punishment was served. If an adult engaged in the same he was considered insane and was cured after severe punishment
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Wainadi
#3 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 6:57:28 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
In Kikuyu

....Mùndù mùrùme kùgwata ùrìa ùngì nì mùgiro mùnene mùno ùtarì horohio...

Translates thus...if a man f****d another man (either with consent or none), this is an extremely deep taboo that has no custom or traditional remedy...Laughing out loudly smile Sad Sad

To right the situation the two men are supposed to fight up until one of them is killed by the other.Pray Pray

How do other African tribes treat this anomalous behaviour??


Sawa Binywavanga. Enderia athungo matina ta kawaida.
Its all good.
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Gordon Gekko
#4 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:04:31 PM
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Yaani it's possible to be f****d by force then killed, both by the same guy? That's a double f**k Sad
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Rankaz13
#5 Posted : Sunday, May 04, 2014 9:37:14 AM
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mpobiz wrote:
Wewe nugu kabisa. What you are trying to imply is that this behaviour existed in the Kikuyu community long before the white man come here.
the phrase you are referring to is from religious texts that come after colonialism. As for the punishment this shows how good a day dreamer you are.
What I know existed as an abnormal sexual behaviour was some level of bestiality where young boys would engage with goats and sheep while grazing them away from the village. The act was not encouraged and whoever was caught some punishment was served. If an adult engaged in the same he was considered insane and was cured after severe punishment


Pray Pray
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its2013
#6 Posted : Sunday, May 04, 2014 1:23:32 PM
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It's of course a fact that same sex attractions were a reality before colonialism. I don't know the specifics as to how specific cultures handled it but the homophobic saying quoted at the start of the thread would most likely have come up after colonialism as the new culture and religions came loaded with intolerant and prejudiced ideologies.
Pretty hurts
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sparkly
#7 Posted : Sunday, May 04, 2014 1:51:24 PM
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The surest test of homosexuality before colonialism is whether there was a word for it in your community. If there was then HS existed, if there wasn't then there was no HS. The Eskimos have 50 words for snow while the Maasai have none.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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murchr
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:54:04 AM
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The President of Gambia wrote:
"If you do it [in The Gambia] I will slit your throat," "If you are a man and want to marry another man in this country and we catch you, no one will ever set eyes on you again, and no white person can do anything about it."

Homosexuality is anti-god, anti-human, and anti-civilization. Homosexuals are not welcome in the Gambia. If we catch you, you will regret why you are born. I have buffaloes from South Africa and Brazil and they never date each other. We are ready to eat grass but we will not compromise on this. Allowing homosexuality means allowing satanic rights. We will not allow gays here.


President Yahya Jammeh said in a public speech in the Wolof language, cited by VICE News.

He reportedly spoke in the town of Farafeni, while on an agriculural tour of his country.

http://www.washingtonpos...-the-throats-of-gay-men/
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Njung'e
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:04:13 AM
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murchr wrote:
[quote=The President of Gambia]"If you do it [in The Gambia] I will slit your throat," "If you are a man and want to marry another man in this country and we catch you, no one will ever set eyes on you again, and no white person can do anything about it."

Homosexuality is anti-god, anti-human, and anti-civilization. Homosexuals are not welcome in the Gambia. If we catch you, you will regret why you are born. I have buffaloes from South Africa and Brazil and they never date each other. We are ready to eat grass but we will not compromise on this. Allowing homosexuality means allowing satanic rights. We will not allow gays here.


President Yahya Jammeh said in a public speech in the Wolof language, cited by VICE News.

He reportedly spoke in the town of Farafeni, while on an agriculural tour of his country.

http://www.washingtonpos...the-throats-of-gay-men/[/quote]

TICK!!!Applause
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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its2013
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:43:28 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
murchr wrote:
[quote=The President of Gambia]"If you do it [in The Gambia] I will slit your throat," "If you are a man and want to marry another man in this country and we catch you, no one will ever set eyes on you again, and no white person can do anything about it."

Homosexuality is anti-god, anti-human, and anti-civilization. Homosexuals are not welcome in the Gambia. If we catch you, you will regret why you are born. I have buffaloes from South Africa and Brazil and they never date each other. We are ready to eat grass but we will not compromise on this. Allowing homosexuality means allowing satanic rights. We will not allow gays here.


President Yahya Jammeh said in a public speech in the Wolof language, cited by VICE News.

He reportedly spoke in the town of Farafeni, while on an agriculural tour of his country.

http://www.washingtonpos...the-throats-of-gay-men/[/quote]

TICK!!!Applause


This is just SAD.
Pretty hurts
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