Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/2/2014 Posts: 12 Location: Kabati
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guru267 wrote:kysse wrote:guru267 wrote:EPS = 3.55 bob
NAV = 21 bob
DPS = 90 Cents
At a price of 10bob only God knows why one would invest in anything else!
This thing is supoosed to be a minimum of 30bob today.... is there a simpler way of interpreting these jargons? what do they mean for a simple shareholder like me? It means Unaitas is CHEEAAP!!  Don't be mean, kindly interpret the EPZ, Naivasha abbrev 
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/4/2012 Posts: 155 Location: Kenya
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jaw wrote:guru267 wrote:kysse wrote:guru267 wrote:EPS = 3.55 bob
NAV = 21 bob
DPS = 90 Cents
At a price of 10bob only God knows why one would invest in anything else!
This thing is supoosed to be a minimum of 30bob today.... is there a simpler way of interpreting these jargons? what do they mean for a simple shareholder like me? It means Unaitas is CHEEAAP!! Don't be mean, kindly interpret the EPZ, Naivasha abbrev EPS means earnings per share,ie, profit after tax divided by the number of shares NAV is Net asset value, this is the total shareholder funds or total assets less liabilities divided by the number of shares. This is what you are actually buying meaning UNAITAS is very very cheap at current price. If you don't want to go to plan B have a good plan A.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Mainat wrote:Not a rumour. It made 247m, a 50% increase on 2012. Dividend is 61m. All ratios looking pukka.
They won't budge on the bonus share, but they acknowledged it was wrong. Kenyans all way Mainat wrote:Hobbit- every star gets its turn to shine.
Jaggernut- a gourd with greater depth is the one that stores better. The is version in ki-rware.
Gourds were used for storing food. Ngai! the language spoken here is "pari passu" worse than tongues. Ok what's in the basket for us/me? I bought my first shares in 2011/12 and some last year. Please don't sound parri.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/2/2014 Posts: 12 Location: Kabati
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Mucene wrote:jaw wrote:guru267 wrote:kysse wrote:guru267 wrote:EPS = 3.55 bob
NAV = 21 bob
DPS = 90 Cents
At a price of 10bob only God knows why one would invest in anything else!
This thing is supoosed to be a minimum of 30bob today.... is there a simpler way of interpreting these jargons? what do they mean for a simple shareholder like me? It means Unaitas is CHEEAAP!! Don't be mean, kindly interpret the EPZ, Naivasha abbrev EPS means earnings per share,ie, profit after tax divided by the number of shares NAV is Net asset value, this is the total shareholder funds or total assets less liabilities divided by the number of shares. This is what you are actually buying meaning UNAITAS is very very cheap at current price. @mucene zidi kubarikiwa.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 511 Location: kandara, Murang'a
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Mainat wrote:Hobbit- every star gets its turn to shine.
Jaggernut- a gourd with greater depth is the one that stores better. The is version in ki-rware.
Gourds were used for storing food. Mainat direct translation, a guard with a an ass does not need help to sit, sits itself.. Foresight..
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/18/2006 Posts: 131
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guru267 wrote:EPS = 3.55 bob
NAV = 21 bob
DPS = 90 Cents
At a price of 10bob only God knows why one would invest in anything else!
This thing is supoosed to be a minimum of 30bob today.... If i buy today, when is the earliest one can be able to sell?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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kazee wrote:guru267 wrote:EPS = 3.55 bob
NAV = 21 bob
DPS = 90 Cents
At a price of 10bob only God knows why one would invest in anything else!
This thing is supoosed to be a minimum of 30bob today.... If i buy today, when is the earliest one can be able to sell? I'm sure they will be listing by 2018 and will possibly be on the OTC by 2016. Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/14/2011 Posts: 171
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How are dividends calculated? Is it flat rate/prorated..? Say I purchase shares worth 20k in January and 30k in August, how much dividend will I get come next year? Lets say the rate is 10% Thanks! You kill bird...bird dead snake come.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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pleasecallme wrote:How are dividends calculated? Is it flat rate/prorated..? Say I purchase shares worth 20k in January and 30k in August, how much dividend will I get come next year? Lets say the rate is 10%
Thanks! Dividend is paid on shares held on 31st Dec! You would get 5k dividend... Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2013 Posts: 118
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pleasecallme wrote:How are dividends calculated? Is it flat rate/prorated..? Say I purchase shares worth 20k in January and 30k in August, how much dividend will I get come next year? Lets say the rate is 10%
Thanks! u would 3k.Its prorated to time u giv the money to them.10% is for twelv months KCB,NMG,PAFR
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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pleasecallme wrote:How are dividends calculated? Is it flat rate/prorated..? Say I purchase shares worth 20k in January and 30k in August, how much dividend will I get come next year? Lets say the rate is 10%
Thanks! January contribution = 20,000 x 10% x 11/12 (it was held for 11 months) August contribution = 30, 000 × 10% × 4/12 (it was held for 4 months) Take the two amounts and remove withholding tax of 5% Dividend = 1,833.33
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Gordon Gekko wrote:pleasecallme wrote:How are dividends calculated? Is it flat rate/prorated..? Say I purchase shares worth 20k in January and 30k in August, how much dividend will I get come next year? Lets say the rate is 10%
Thanks! January contribution = 20,000 x 10% x 11/12 (it was held for 11 months) August contribution = 30, 000 × 10% × 4/12 (it was held for 4 months) Take the two amounts and remove withholding tax of 5% Dividend = 1,833.33 @GG Sasa what is this?? There was 690m share capital as at 31 Dec! 61m (9%) was paid as dividend... Is that how dividend is calculated on the NSE?? DIVIDENDS SI KAMA INTEREST! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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@guru, don't confuse shares and deposits. Dividends on shares are computed using amounts as at 31 Dec. Deposits are computed based on the period held by the sacco.
All members have a equal number of shares, usually 20k for deposit taking saccos.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Gordon Gekko wrote:@guru, don't confuse shares and deposits. Dividends on shares are computed using amounts as at 31 Dec. Deposits are computed based on the period held by the sacco.
All members have a equal number of shares, usually 20k for deposit taking saccos. @GG seriously what are you smoking tonight??   The question is on buying shares and has nothing to do with deposits! Unaitas shares can be purchased over the counter and have nothing to do with deposits... Members DO NOT have equal number of shares! In other words one can be a shareholder and have no deposits and can have deposits and no shares! If they buy 20k of SHARES in January and 30k of SHARES in August they will have 50K SHARE CAPITAL as at 31st Dec. 10% OF 50K SHARE CAPITAL HELD AT 31ST DEC IS 5K! Simple.... Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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guru267 wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:@guru, don't confuse shares and deposits. Dividends on shares are computed using amounts as at 31 Dec. Deposits are computed based on the period held by the sacco.
All members have a equal number of shares, usually 20k for deposit taking saccos. @GG seriously what are you smoking tonight?? The question is on buying shares and has nothing to do with deposits! Unaitas shares can be purchased over the counter and have nothing to do with deposits... Members DO NOT have equal number of shares! In other words one can be a shareholder and have no deposits and can have deposits and no shares! If they buy 20k of SHARES in January and 30k of SHARES in August they will have 50K SHARE CAPITAL as at 31st Dec. 10% OF 50K SHARE CAPITAL HELD AT 31ST DEC IS 5K! Simple.... Phew, the ndom has worn off. Never mix it with miraa. So what was the quetion again? BTW, the stuff I smoked might be legal soon.... www.standardmedia.co.ke/...but-has-idea-come-of-age
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 511 Location: kandara, Murang'a
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The CEo addressed the worshippers at Holy Family as the workers took the muhothi(Sunday collection).. couldn't help but wonder if that added to shares.. Foresight..
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2013 Posts: 118
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gatoho wrote:The CEo addressed the worshippers at Holy Family as the workers took the muhothi(Sunday collection).. couldn't help but wonder if that added to shares.. @gatoho,wat was the message? KCB,NMG,PAFR
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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yosie14 wrote:gatoho wrote:The CEo addressed the worshippers at Holy Family as the workers took the muhothi(Sunday collection).. couldn't help but wonder if that added to shares.. @gatoho,wat was the message? what a signature! The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/3/2014 Posts: 131
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@guru I support your argument, Unaitas dividends are normally calculated on the basis of no. of shares held as per the books closure i.e 31st Dec regardless of when you bought them. Minimum shares is 100 and you can have shares but no deposits eg I have shares but my account balance is below 500. I usually set aside the cash that am willing to buy shares in the Sacco and place the money in fixed deposits such that they mature by early Dec and then I buy shares before their books closure. IMITATION IS LIMITATION
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2013 Posts: 118
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Murang'a wrote:@guru I support your argument, Unaitas dividends are normally calculated on the basis of no. of shares held as per the books closure i.e 31st Dec regardless of when you bought them.
Minimum shares is 100 and you can have shares but no deposits eg I have shares but my account balance is below 500.
I usually set aside the cash that am willing to buy shares in the Sacco and place the money in fixed deposits such that they mature by early Dec and then I buy shares before their books closure. aiiii if this is the case then they conned me.My first purchase was in 2012 and the dividend I received last year was for 6 months since I invested in june.Its also possible they changed the policy KCB,NMG,PAFR
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