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#141 Posted : Saturday, April 19, 2014 3:42:05 PM
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alma wrote:
Apana jokes...They said that there was a standing court order. It was not implemented.

Whether you like it or not, court orders are meant to be followed. By everyone, even Jesus followed the court order to appear before Pilate.

But if you think that your MP is too special to follow a court order, then you are the one who may be feeling slighted.

The Kanu gov't shouldn't come back through the back door of pretending that what they did was for the good of the country.

The good of the country means, you remove the governor using proper legal channels as the constitution says. If they think that is too hard for them, then they have another 3 years 4 months to deal with Wambora.

Wapeleke huyu mzee wakitumia sheria. Not crying all the time that the judiciary this judiciary that.


Alma i would like to point out that the law was followed in this case.

in fact i admire the speaker of the Embu county assembly in ensuring the law was followed.

Our constitution is supreme and recognises the independence of the three arms of the Government

under the constitution section 2 (3) and here i quote: The validity or legality of this Constitution is not subject to challenge by or before any court or other State organ..

secondly in this same constitution section 181 (1) it clearly states instances a Governor can be removed and here i quote again;

A county governor may be removed from office on any of the following grounds—
(a) gross violation of this Constitution or any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the county governor has committed a crime under national or international law;
(c) abuse of office or gross misconduct; or
(d) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of office of county governor.


In section 181 (20 in the same constitution it gives parliament the power to enact subsidiary legislation on the procedure to follow when removing a Governor the grounds specified in SECTION 181 (1);

and this was the County Government Act 2012. Were it gives the procedures to be followed when removing a Governor;

the county governmet act states Under section 33 (1) under Article 181 of the Constitution a governor may be removed where;

A member of the county assembly may by notice to the speaker, supported by at least a third of all the members, move a motion for the removal of the governor under

(2) If a motion under subsection (1) is supported by at least two-thirds of all the members of the county assembly—

(a)the speaker of the county assembly shall inform the Speaker of the Senate of that resolution within two days; and

(b)the governor shall continue to perform the functions of the office pending the outcome of the proceedings required by this section.

(3) Within seven days after receiving notice of a resolution from the speaker of the county assembly—

(a)the Speaker of the Senate shall convene a meeting of the Senate to hear charges against the governor; and

(b) the Senate, by resolution, may appoint a special committee comprising eleven of its members to investigate the matter.

(4) A special committee appointed under subsection (3)(b) shall:

(a)investigate the matter; and
(b)report to the Senate within ten days on whether it finds the particulars of the allegations against the governor to have been substantiated.

(5) The governor shall have the right to appear and be
represented before the special committee during its investigations.

(6) If the special committee reports that the particulars of any allegation against the governor:

(a)have not been substantiated, further proceedings shall not be taken under this section in respect of that allegation; or
(b)have been substantiated, the Senate shall, after according the governor an opportunity to be heard, vote on the impeachment charges.

(7) If a majority of all the members of the Senate vote to uphold any impeachment charge, the governor shall cease to hold office.

(8) If a vote in the Senate fails to result in the removal of the governor, the Speaker of the Senate shall notify the speaker of the concerned county assembly accordingly and the motion by the assembly for the removal of the governor on the same charges may only be re-introduced to the Senate on the expiry of three months from the date of such vote.

(9) The procedure for the removal of the President on grounds of incapacity under Article 144 of the Constitution shall apply, with necessary modifications, to the removal of a governor.

(10) A vacancy in the office of the governor or deputy governor arising under this section shall be filled in the manner provided for by Article 182 of the Constitution.

I have decided to put the sections identified in the constitution and the County Government act so you can decide for your self where the law was not followed.

who broke the law?
the legislature or the courts??

Kibaki alisema tusome Katiba....
muganda
#142 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:33:43 PM
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kingfisher
#143 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:49:52 PM
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muganda wrote:




that man's current biggest problem must be his former side dish whom he made running mate, hence deputy governor, she now knows if the man goes she becomes governor for the remainder of the term.... add hostile MCAs to the mix!!!
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Pesa Nane
#144 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 7:04:04 PM
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Dear MCA's, space this Wambora guy and user the Maddo survey thread Pray Pray
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
murchr
#145 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:20:15 PM
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Embians pls sign the petition to recall the county gov
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma
#146 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:02:56 PM
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Jokes, I don't know if you are a judge. But the judges disagreed with you.

Now they have a second chance to do it PROPERLY.

Bwana king the lesson for today is keep the side dish huko kayole. Apana pereka kwa ofisi.Laughing out loudly
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#147 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:12:30 PM
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These people past Kirinyaga are a stubborn lot, if they don't want you no bribery or sweet talking can make them change their minds.
Its all good.
washiku
#148 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:07:23 PM
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Siringi
#149 Posted : Friday, May 09, 2014 2:23:00 PM
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muganda
#150 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:54:33 PM
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Should hold this time.
I am noting a new trend with Judiciary to restrain from interfering too much in Legislature - otherwise they create rule by 1 arm of government.



Tokyo
#151 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:08:49 PM
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Wambora should know he has a right to be impeached
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streetwise
#152 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:27:43 PM
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Huyu Wabora alifanya nini..to be hated that much by all people ?????

So so strange !!!!
Muheani
#153 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:51:44 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Huyu Wabora alifanya nini..to be hated that much by all people ?????

So so strange !!!!


Lesson Learnt...Dont you go getting yourself a name "Wambora". Utapata Kombora.


murchr
#154 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:29:31 AM
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After listening to Wambora on Cheche i have reason to believe there's more than meets the eye here.

I have a few questions, can Senate convict anyone of an offense? Does the senate have any capabilities of finding out that indeed the seeds were procured by the county govt were "fake"?.

This is what the constitution says

Quote:
(A county governor may be removed from office on any of the following grounds––

a) gross violation of this Constitution or any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the county governor has committed a crime under national or international law;
(c) abuse of office or gross misconduct; or
(d) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of office of county governor.


1. What constitutes a "gross violation", "a crime" and "a gross misconduct"?

2. Who declares/validates that they (governors) have violated the laws above?

3. Didn't the senators jump the gun if they acted on allegations rather than proven facts?




"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkenyan
#155 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:34:34 AM
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murchr wrote:
After listening to Wambora on Cheche i have reason to believe there's more than meets the eye here.

I have a few questions, can Senate convict anyone of an offense? Does the senate have any capabilities of finding out that indeed the seeds were procured by the county govt were "fake"?.

This is what the constitution says

Quote:
(A county governor may be removed from office on any of the following grounds––

a) gross violation of this Constitution or any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the county governor has committed a crime under national or international law;
(c) abuse of office or gross misconduct; or
(d) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of office of county governor.


1. What constitutes a "gross violation", "a crime" and "a gross misconduct"?

2. Who declares/validates that they (governors) have violated the laws above?

3. Didn't the senators jump the gun if they acted on allegations rather than proven facts?





gross violation can be just about anything. the constitution allows for the mcas and the senate to remove a governor from office. thus in reality it's a political process in this instance. not a judicial one where the burden of proof would be higher.
murchr
#156 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 2:17:38 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
murchr wrote:
After listening to Wambora on Cheche i have reason to believe there's more than meets the eye here.

I have a few questions, can Senate convict anyone of an offense? Does the senate have any capabilities of finding out that indeed the seeds were procured by the county govt were "fake"?.

This is what the constitution says

Quote:
(A county governor may be removed from office on any of the following grounds––

a) gross violation of this Constitution or any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the county governor has committed a crime under national or international law;
(c) abuse of office or gross misconduct; or
(d) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of office of county governor.


1. What constitutes a "gross violation", "a crime" and "a gross misconduct"?

2. Who declares/validates that they (governors) have violated the laws above?

3. Didn't the senators jump the gun if they acted on allegations rather than proven facts?





gross violation can be just about anything. the constitution allows for the mcas and the senate to remove a governor from office. thus in reality it's a political process in this instance. not a judicial one where the burden of proof would be higher.


I read the constitution and its says that parliament shall create a "process" which i think is the mca impeachment and then the senate bla bla. But either way parliament did not give the mcas or senate powers to prosecute one can only be found guilty in a court process.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#157 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:06:09 PM
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Muheani wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Huyu Wabora alifanya nini..to be hated that much by all people ?????

So so strange !!!!


Lesson Learnt...Dont you go getting yourself a name "Wambora". Utapata Kombora.



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McReggae
#158 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 12:47:18 PM
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Can't he just let go? HIGH COURT rules that embattled Embu Governor Martin Wambora will remain in office until a case filed by some county residents is determined
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Angelica _ann
#159 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 12:48:32 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Can't he just let go? HIGH COURT rules that embattled Embu Governor Martin Wambora will remain in office until a case filed by some county residents is determined

Absurd!
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Ngong
#160 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 12:59:52 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Can't he just let go? HIGH COURT rules that embattled Embu Governor Martin Wambora will remain in office until a case filed by some county residents is determined


No since what follows is jail
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