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Carbacid FY 12/13 Results
kaka2za
#41 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 7:37:11 PM
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So which factors pushed the price to 73?
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Realtreaty
#42 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:18:34 PM
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speculation. people knew split has not taken place and were buying more to get more.
The stock price is best rated at 36-43 Kes for the next 5 months as I had said.
BGL
#43 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:34:34 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
So which factors pushed the price to 73?


HERD mentality!
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murchr
#44 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:36:52 PM
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The price of this stock was over 200 before Nov 15th Why did the NSE revalue it if it dint split?
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BGL
#45 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:47:55 PM
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The bonus will be credited on tuesday (10.12.2013) the same day the AGM takes place at Sankara Westlands. The crediting of split shares will be effected after the AGM perhaps in January next year.

This will be the first AGM i attend this year (i love holidays|i love december) and i will be tweeting on location.
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BGL
#46 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:01:18 PM
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Carbacid AGM.... the highlights!
-The chaiman announced the recruitment of a new COO Mr Gerald Masese from the Oil Industry. In future Carbacid will play a role in Oil extraction..... though he never elaborated.
-Carbacid is venturing into the rather virgin Ethiopian Market. This market is supplied from Kenya and the biggest challenge is the logistics. The chairman was rather categorical that transport is Carbacid’s 2nd core business and will not outsource it. FYI it takes 5 days to deliver CO2 from Nairobi to Addis Ababa. However, the future looks bright when you take into account that Ethiopia has (i) High growth rate (ii) Huge population and (iii) The market had been closed and is just opening up.
-A new plant is being installed at the Kangwe extraction site to improve on the efficiency of harvesting CO2. It will cost Ksh300mn and it will be funded by internally generated funds.
-The Tanzanian Market had been challenging (the correct word should be shrinking) in the past financial year. This has been attributed to their competitor Tanzania Oxygen Ltd (TOL) completing their new plant. The positive thing is that Carbacid has shareholding in TOL and is looking forward to participating in the rights issue.
-The final dividend will be paid today. CMA has approved the bonus and split and crediting of the bonus is today. I am not sure or did not get it clearly as to when the split will be credited!!!! The debate on when the share split occurred (nov 18) was also raised and addressed.
-Lastly, the employees who have worked for the company diligently were rewarded. Two gentlemen who have worked for over 10years got a certificate and a cheque of 14k each and three gentlemen who have worked for more than 20 years got a certificate and a cheque of 28k each.
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BGL
#47 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:42:58 AM
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Bonus shares were credited to CDSC accounts yesterday.
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jerry
#48 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:07:08 PM
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BGL wrote:
Bonus shares were credited to CDSC accounts yesterday.

That AGM summary is good. We now wait for splits to be credited before we can pounce on the share! 40/= WILL BE GOOD PRICE.
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King G
#49 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:12:08 PM
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jerry wrote:
BGL wrote:
Bonus shares were credited to CDSC accounts yesterday.

That AGM summary is good. We now wait for splits to be credited before we can pounce on the share! 40/= WILL BE GOOD PRICE.


Also waiting @38-42 range
Thieves
BGL
#50 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:33:59 PM
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Has anybody received a dividend cheque for FY2013 from Carbacid?
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Wondergirl
#51 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 11:50:52 AM
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stocksmaster wrote:
BOC is trading at a P/E of about 11.5, so if you factor a P/E of 12 for Carbacid and an EPS of 13.99, thats a price of Ksh 168...... Add the Ksh 3.00 final dividend and i would place a fair value of Ksh 171 for Carbacid pre book closure (come dividend and come split).

Post split and ex dividend, Ksh (168 x 2/3)/5 = Ksh 22.40 is my projected fair value.

Happy Hunting

Stocksmaster,

Does this opinion still hold? How far down do you expect it can go? How far up would you expect it to go?
Wondergirl
#52 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 11:59:38 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=FUNKY]This year seems good for Carbacid too

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/2dt6uv/-/index.html[/quote] This is a constant performer. I regret selling my shares after what I thought was a temporary spike when they re-listed after the suspension. Very well managed firm. A consistent performer.


@ Very many things,
At what price would you buy this thing?
jerry
#53 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 1:04:40 PM
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Wondergirl wrote:
stocksmaster wrote:
BOC is trading at a P/E of about 11.5, so if you factor a P/E of 12 for Carbacid and an EPS of 13.99, thats a price of Ksh 168...... Add the Ksh 3.00 final dividend and i would place a fair value of Ksh 171 for Carbacid pre book closure (come dividend and come split).

Post split and ex dividend, Ksh (168 x 2/3)/5 = Ksh 22.40 is my projected fair value.

Happy Hunting

Stocksmaster,

Does this opinion still hold? How far down do you expect it can go? How far up would you expect it to go?

What about posting of splits, Are they trading already?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
Wondergirl
#54 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 1:07:47 PM
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jerry wrote:
Wondergirl wrote:
stocksmaster wrote:
BOC is trading at a P/E of about 11.5, so if you factor a P/E of 12 for Carbacid and an EPS of 13.99, thats a price of Ksh 168...... Add the Ksh 3.00 final dividend and i would place a fair value of Ksh 171 for Carbacid pre book closure (come dividend and come split).

Post split and ex dividend, Ksh (168 x 2/3)/5 = Ksh 22.40 is my projected fair value.

Happy Hunting

Stocksmaster,

Does this opinion still hold? How far down do you expect it can go? How far up would you expect it to go?

What about posting of splits, Are they trading already?

yes they were uploaded
VituVingiSana
#55 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 3:13:32 PM
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Wondergirl wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=FUNKY]This year seems good for Carbacid too

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/2dt6uv/-/index.html[/quote] This is a constant performer. I regret selling my shares after what I thought was a temporary spike when they re-listed after the suspension. Very well managed firm. A consistent performer.


@ Very many things,
At what price would you buy this thing?
I need to look at it again but definitely not at current prices [30+]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Wondergirl
#56 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 3:26:27 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Wondergirl wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=FUNKY]This year seems good for Carbacid too

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/2dt6uv/-/index.html[/quote] This is a constant performer. I regret selling my shares after what I thought was a temporary spike when they re-listed after the suspension. Very well managed firm. A consistent performer.


@ Very many things,
At what price would you buy this thing?
I need to look at it again but definitely not at current prices [30+]


Wow! So you really are expecting it to go further downSad - Thanks anyway.
Ilikeyou
#57 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 3:15:30 PM
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This counter keeps going south,

Some one pls enlighten on probably reasons and whether it is an opportunity to buy.
jawgey
#58 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 5:46:22 PM
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Ilikeyou wrote:
This counter keeps going south,

Some one pls enlighten on probably reasons and whether it is an opportunity to buy.


I echo your sentiments, no idea what's going on but for me it's a good business and the only prudent thing am doing is stocking up!
Seeing is believing
Aguytrying
#59 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 6:54:13 PM
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If you like carbacid so much, have a look at B.O.C. carbacid is still abit overvalued as compared to B.O.C. yet both are very similar even earnings.
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murchr
#60 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:02:09 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
If you like carbacid so much, have a look at B.O.C. carbacid is still abit overvalued as compared to B.O.C. yet both are very similar even earnings.


Aguy BOC has a trailing PE of 27, carbacid is overvalued and needs to come down to 20 or less. Who are Carbacids competitors in the reagion?
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