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Angelica _ann wrote:Can you expound all 1-8 in English! This thread belongs to that person. The person who may want to use the ladder. Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs. But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder. This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
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Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" Indeed the universe is set up in such a way that you can only get because you give. But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent. Good point. Which is why I suggest you not just build ladders, you help others UP them. After all, to paraphrase another good book: The day you stand before Osiris, the great judge, you will have to answer this question: "How many people had their lives changed for the better because you walked on Earth?' [The Egyptian Book of the Dead] "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent. Good point. Which is why I suggest you not just build ladders, you help others UP them. After all, to paraphrase another good book: The day you stand before Osiris, the great judge, you will have to answer this question: "How many people had their lives changed for the better because you walked on Earth?' [The Egyptian Book of the Dead] Wakanyungi, The book of the dead still does not invalidate my point. You can build a ladder but can you determine how it is used? Someones life can change for the better if, as Osiris will measure in the scales, someone descends so that the other rises. But why should someone descend at all? Shida yangu iko hapo. Don't build, no descent!
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Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent. Good point. Which is why I suggest you not just build ladders, you help others UP them. After all, to paraphrase another good book: The day you stand before Osiris, the great judge, you will have to answer this question: "How many people had their lives changed for the better because you walked on Earth?' [The Egyptian Book of the Dead] Maybe one of the reasons but not the only. We also should not give just because we received. There are some "gifts" we have to throw away, the ladders we must kick should we find we climbed them.
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danas10 wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent. Good point. Which is why I suggest you not just build ladders, you help others UP them. After all, to paraphrase another good book: The day you stand before Osiris, the great judge, you will have to answer this question: "How many people had their lives changed for the better because you walked on Earth?' [The Egyptian Book of the Dead] Maybe one of the reasons but not the only. We also should not give just because we received. There are some "gifts" we have to throw away, the ladders we must kick should we find we climbed them. Danas10, are you for these ladders? At least you are for kicking them away.
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danas10 wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent. Good point. Which is why I suggest you not just build ladders, you help others UP them. After all, to paraphrase another good book: The day you stand before Osiris, the great judge, you will have to answer this question: "How many people had their lives changed for the better because you walked on Earth?' [The Egyptian Book of the Dead] Maybe one of the reasons but not the only. We also should not give just because we received. There are some "gifts" we have to throw away, the ladders we must kick should we find we climbed them. @Dana10: I think you got my point upside down. The law of the Universe does not say you should give because you receive (although it is certainly a good thing to do so). It says 'you only get because you give.' You can control what you get by controlling what you give. Whatever you have attracted into your reality is a perfect mirror image of what you have given out (in material, energy, intent, prayer, desire, action etc) Ergo there is no difference between giving and getting. I think this is another way of saying you create your own reality. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent. Good point. Which is why I suggest you not just build ladders, you help others UP them. After all, to paraphrase another good book: The day you stand before Osiris, the great judge, you will have to answer this question: "How many people had their lives changed for the better because you walked on Earth?' [The Egyptian Book of the Dead] Wakanyungi, The book of the dead still does not invalidate my point. You can build a ladder but can you determine how it is used? Someones life can change for the better if, as Osiris will measure in the scales, someone descends so that the other rises. But why should someone descend at all? Shida yangu iko hapo. Don't build, no descent! I recently received a quotation on facebook that went something like this: "Sometimes people to whom you are kind will be unkind...be kind anyway" To which I would add: "Sometimes people will use the ladders you have built for their benefit to descend rather than ascend... build ladders anyway." "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Muriel wrote:
Time maybe to be said, 'make sure you kick the ladder away, before you even climb'. Yes, I would kick the ladder than climb and before anyone else climbs.
But this thread belongs to that person who may want to use the ladder.
This thread, then, is not for me. Good luck.
Rather than climb ladders, would it not be more satisfying to be the maker of ladders and to help others find there way up the rungs? After all the good book (I forget which one) says: "Between giving and receiving, there is no difference. The Universe is set up in such a way that you only get because you give" But I don't think it is just a matter of ladders. Some ladders should not even be built. After all there is no guarantee that that a ladder is used only for climbing. It can also be used for descent. Good point. Which is why I suggest you not just build ladders, you help others UP them. After all, to paraphrase another good book: The day you stand before Osiris, the great judge, you will have to answer this question: "How many people had their lives changed for the better because you walked on Earth?' [The Egyptian Book of the Dead] Wakanyungi, The book of the dead still does not invalidate my point. You can build a ladder but can you determine how it is used? Someones life can change for the better if, as Osiris will measure in the scales, someone descends so that the other rises. But why should someone descend at all? Shida yangu iko hapo. Don't build, no descent! I recently received a quotation on facebook that went something like this: "Sometimes people to whom you are kind will be unkind...be kind anyway" To which I would add: "Sometimes people will use the ladders you have built for their benefit to descend rather than ascend... build ladders anyway." Perhaps I shouldn't have put in that line. So much for being the clincher!
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