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dunkang
#21 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 12:07:00 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@dunkang
It's already a confirmation.France Telecom are pulling out of Telkom Kenya.Wamechoka an wameona hawawezi hack

So, is it that they want someone else (partner) to come in and inject the much needed MONEY, or is it that they want to "cut their losses and RUN like never before!"? Which is which?
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:42:08 AM
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With due respect to prombox owners in this forum,I saw an orange branded orange prombox...
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:20:40 PM
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Au revoir Orange.
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hisah
#24 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 11:24:17 PM
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Orange Kenya up for sale.

http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/hopywo/-/index.html

Quote:
Depending on how the negotiations between France Telecom and the new buyer progress- the French investors could be out of the company by June 2014.

France Telecom owns 70 per cent of shares in the
company. The government is the other shareholder with a 30 per cent stake.

Well-placed sources exclusively told the Nation that the French had informed the government that they intended to enter into a transition agreement with the new buyers to ensure that the change in ownership was smooth and to maintain the quality of service to subscribers.


Now I see why the turbo trade on mpesa bank last Friday.

This orange kenya is such an enron only political will can force the skeletons out of the closet (expose the corrupt shadow masters and force a default and wind down). Waiting to see who's inheriting the skeletons and how long they'll take in water before selling out to the next sucker...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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sparkly
#25 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:12:49 AM
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sadly I dumped Mpesa at sub 5, after several years of painfully holding on. Lady luck is such a B!
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hisah
#26 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:38:36 AM
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$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:55:19 AM
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Word on the ground is that MTN execs are currently carrying out due diligence.
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:18:16 AM
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kollabo wrote:
Word on the ground is that MTN execs are currently carrying out due diligence.


Isn't that just delightful...
for subscriber,
for the market,
for the regulator,
for Kenya.

Appreciate Safaricom, but even the best animal can tip the balance of nature.
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#29 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:27:57 AM
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@hisah, @kollabo in that thread of 'orange thinking of pulling out' claims it is MTN! can MTN be that jinga ....... why cant they seek an outright licence!
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:35:31 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
@hisah, @kollabo in that thread of 'orange thinking of pulling out' claims it is MTN! can MTN be that jinga ....... why cant they seek an outright licence!


Infrastructure set up costs my friend. Its easier to work with a going concern.

Just wondering does GOK have pre-emptive rights?
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dunkang
#31 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:59:52 PM
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kollabo wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
@hisah, @kollabo in that thread of 'orange thinking of pulling out' claims it is MTN! can MTN be that jinga ....... why cant they seek an outright licence!


Infrastructure set up costs my friend. Its easier to work with a going concern.

Just wondering does GOK have pre-emptive rights?

What is this special thing they are bringing that will shake the market out of SAFCOM?

Is it Number Portability? That one died in 2011!
Is it money transfer cost? Some dying players tried it FREE OF CHARGE and didn't do anything.
It it free SMS and Calls? That is a tried and DEAD strategy.

The battle should be in MOBILE DATA. UNLIMITED COST SUSTAINABLE DATA! IS ANYONE LISTENING!!!!!?
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hisah
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:15:02 PM
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1.5B turnover on mpesa bank last Friday is where my attention is. Always follow the money...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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murchr
#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:21:23 PM
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dunkang wrote:
kollabo wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
@hisah, @kollabo in that thread of 'orange thinking of pulling out' claims it is MTN! can MTN be that jinga ....... why cant they seek an outright licence!


Infrastructure set up costs my friend. Its easier to work with a going concern.

Just wondering does GOK have pre-emptive rights?

What is this special thing they are bringing that will shake the market out of SAFCOM?

Is it Number Portability? That one died in 2011!
Is it money transfer cost? Some dying players tried it FREE OF CHARGE and didn't do anything.
It it free SMS and Calls? That is a tried and DEAD strategy.

The battle should be in MOBILE DATA. UNLIMITED COST SUSTAINABLE DATA! IS ANYONE LISTENING!!!!!?


Ditto!!!!
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Coolbull
#34 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:09:58 PM
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murchr wrote:

The battle should be in MOBILE DATA. UNLIMITED COST SUSTAINABLE DATA! IS ANYONE LISTENING[/color][/b]!!!!!?


Ditto!!!![/quote]

I agree. Any new entrant should be thinking of Data. One advantage of data over call/sms/money transfer is that one does not need to change numbers to enjoy the service.

For example, my official line is Safcom coz of calls and Mpesa. However, when it comes to data (internet) I use Orange (un)limited monthly or Airtel (un)limited monthly.

I hope the new entrant will charge 2,500/= or even 2,000/= or even 1,500/= for unlimited or un)limited data per month.....something hard for Safcom to match.
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#35 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:29:04 PM
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hisah wrote:
1.5B turnover on mpesa bank last Friday is where my attention is. Always follow the money...

Wondered whether it was exit vol or accumulation. Seems its clear now!
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hisah
#36 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43:53 AM
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And the drama continues as Orang KE CEO comes out again to deny the sale.

http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/q0hfre/-/index.html

http://www.businessdaily...-/14bte4fz/-/index.html

I thought Yu's sale was being handled badly, but this one has taken the amateur top spot.
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