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Nabwire wrote:Save me the long winded reply, I'm not interested in Islam, I'm not going to google anything. Instead of digressing, answer the question at hand. Why you perpetrate lies in order to give Islam good PR, which is actually bad PR coz now my opinion of Islam is really low. People like you make Islam look bad, you put up a post saying Jesus was Muslim and gives reasons which are all false. That's what I'm debating, I'm not interested in what Islam has to offer, just interested in why Muslims like you think its justified to use deceit to convince people that your religion is good. That to me is no different than the Jim Jones cult. Correction, Abraham, Jesus, Daniel, Isaac, Solomon, David were all Jewish, you can lie to yourself all you want, but it wont change that fact. Interesting how you try to sell Islam using Jews, is it maybe because Mohammed had no positive character traits? You have talked too much... And I can't help if you choose to wallow in ignorance! Islam is the belief in one God... Period! You can call yourself a Jew or Christian or whatever.. As long as you believe to in one God, pray, fast, and give charity you are a MUSLIM!!! Islam is not the worship of Mohammad or being Arab as your small brain might think.. Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Judaism and Islam are the same.... One rejected Jesus Christ the Messiah and the other accepted him as the Holy Spirit of God! Good luck in your Synagogue rejecting the Messiah because you will soon be facing his music! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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 guru267 wrote:Nabwire wrote:Save me the long winded reply, I'm not interested in Islam, I'm not going to google anything. Instead of digressing, answer the question at hand. Why you perpetrate lies in order to give Islam good PR, which is actually bad PR coz now my opinion of Islam is really low. People like you make Islam look bad, you put up a post saying Jesus was Muslim and gives reasons which are all false. That's what I'm debating, I'm not interested in what Islam has to offer, just interested in why Muslims like you think its justified to use deceit to convince people that your religion is good. That to me is no different than the Jim Jones cult. Correction, Abraham, Jesus, Daniel, Isaac, Solomon, David were all Jewish, you can lie to yourself all you want, but it wont change that fact. Interesting how you try to sell Islam using Jews, is it maybe because Mohammed had no positive character traits? You have talked too much... And I can't help if you choose to wallow in ignorance! Islam is the belief in one God... Period! You can call yourself a Jew or Christian or whatever.. As long as you believe to in one God, pray, fast, and give charity you are a MUSLIM!!! Islam is not the worship of Mohammad or being Arab as your small brain might think..  Is this the best you got?! Quite disappointed!! All that macho talk about punishment in hell, mushriks, religious warfare on Christians, and when you get your 5 seconds of fame, you resort to name calling. I am a Muslim that's actually funny, I guess that's the war strategy they teach you at the mosque, if the person you are trying to convert outsmarts you, call them a Muslim! If it makes your day, add Nabwire to the 'Jesus is Muslim list' 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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guru267 wrote:Judaism and Islam are the same.... One rejected Jesus Christ the Messiah and the other accepted him as the Holy Spirit of God!
Good luck in your Synagogue rejecting the Messiah because you will soon be facing his music! And now Judaism and Islam are the same, do you see where I get that notion that you are mentally unstable? Just an FYI, Jews don't believe in hell, so there's no music that will be faced anywhere, unless ofcourse I convert to Islam!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Nabwire wrote:guru267 wrote:Judaism and Islam are the same.... One rejected Jesus Christ the Messiah and the other accepted him as the Holy Spirit of God!
Good luck in your Synagogue rejecting the Messiah because you will soon be facing his music! And now Judaism and Islam are the same, do you see where I get that notion that you are mentally unstable? Just an FYI, Jews don't believe in hell, so there's no music that will be faced anywhere, unless ofcourse I convert to Islam! So how was Jesus a Jew if Jews do not believe in Hell?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@nabwire you come as someone smart and logical and intelligent. It would support this if you demonstrate honesty.
You see you're told something you didn't know and you blatantly dismiss. Is it because you have a set mind?
You yourself said you don't know what mushriks means. You said "..(I don't even know what this means but I presume its meant to insult us)..". If I tell you what it means, you won't want to listen, right? Because you are not really interested in knowing, right?
@guru already told you the meaning of "Islam" and "Muslim", but you don't want to accept. You don't believe him, he tells you to google it, even translate it into the language of your choice using google translate. @guru has told you Muslims do not worship Muhammad (s.a.w), where did you get that from in the first place!!
Nobody wants to convert anybody. It is with love and respect that Christians say Jesus (as) is God Almighty. It is with love and respect that Muslims (submitters to will of God) say Jesus (a.s) is not God, but a messenger of God Almighty. We don't want to convert you either. But we want you to understand what we mean. Why we fast 30 days straight, why we pray 5 times a day, why we give in charity, why we give zakat, why we avoid adultery, why we don't drink alcohol, why we condemn mpango wa kando...
You think we want to be funny? No. We have submitted to the will of God. Same what Jesus preached saying one who submits to the will of my father will enter paradise. Same as the Lords prayer says "Your will be done on earth as it is already being done in heaven". Not the will of Jesus (a.s), not the will of Muhammad (saw), not the will Mary mother of Jesus Christ (pbuh)...
Stop the abuses and let us analyze, anything you want to analyze I'm more than ready to explain. No tricks, just facts.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Nabwire wrote: guru267 wrote:Nabwire wrote:Save me the long winded reply, I'm not interested in Islam, I'm not going to google anything. Instead of digressing, answer the question at hand. Why you perpetrate lies in order to give Islam good PR, which is actually bad PR coz now my opinion of Islam is really low. People like you make Islam look bad, you put up a post saying Jesus was Muslim and gives reasons which are all false. That's what I'm debating, I'm not interested in what Islam has to offer, just interested in why Muslims like you think its justified to use deceit to convince people that your religion is good. That to me is no different than the Jim Jones cult. Correction, Abraham, Jesus, Daniel, Isaac, Solomon, David were all Jewish, you can lie to yourself all you want, but it wont change that fact. Interesting how you try to sell Islam using Jews, is it maybe because Mohammed had no positive character traits? You have talked too much... And I can't help if you choose to wallow in ignorance! Islam is the belief in one God... Period! You can call yourself a Jew or Christian or whatever.. As long as you believe to in one God, pray, fast, and give charity you are a MUSLIM!!! Islam is not the worship of Mohammad or being Arab as your small brain might think.. Is this the best you got?! Quite disappointed!! All that macho talk about punishment in hell, mushriks, religious warfare on Christians, and when you get your 5 seconds of fame, you resort to name calling. I am a Muslim that's actually funny, I guess that's the war strategy they teach you at the mosque, if the person you are trying to convert outsmarts you, call them a Muslim! If it makes your day, add Nabwire to the 'Jesus is Muslim list' I haven't called you any names.. But anyone who is willing to argue from a point of Ignorance and is willing to stay there possibly has a small brain! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@nabwire it seems you have no idea what a Jew is, what a Christian is, and what a Muslim is.
It is in record, in the Jewish scriptures that the Jews rejected Jesus Christ (pbuh). Actually up to today, they are still waiting for their prophet to come.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Nabwire wrote:
10 reasons why Jesus the Messiah and Christ was a Muslim!
1. He believed in one God (did not discuss, teach or pray to Trinity)
2. He only ate halal food (as instructed in the OT)
3. He never touched pork
4. He did not drink alcohol (not all wine is alcoholic)
5. He grew a beard
6. He was circumcised
7. His mother wore a hijab
8. He prostrated to God in prayer
9. He fasted
10. He always wore ihram (Unstitched garments and sandals)
AlphaDoti, I am glad you are finally commenting. But with all due respect, you are taking me down a very winded road. I just want you to answer why your fellow Muslim, guru, made the above assertions as if they are true, do you believe the above assertions to be true? I'm really not interested in all the other talk of how and why you pray, really, I'm not.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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AlphDoti wrote:@nabwire it seems you have no idea what a Jew is, what a Christian is, and what a Muslim is.
It is in record, in the Jewish scriptures that the Jews rejected Jesus Christ (pbuh). Actually up to today, they are still waiting for their prophet to come. I am very much aware of this, is this a selling point to make me believe that Jews are bad people? Whats the relevance of telling me this?
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