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Deceit.
ecstacy
#11 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:46:37 AM
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The NSE has been bearish, let guru and other HomeAfrika investors offload their stress here! LOL
Nabwire
#12 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 4:31:50 PM
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Thanks Washiku, point noted. The purpose of this post was to point out lies, but most importantly I really wanted to learn why such practices seem to be encouraged in Islam. I agree that religious wars are futile, in this case I wasn't necessarily defending the Christian side, I just couldn't resist responding to the lies. I am a strong critic of Christianity, but when I find outright lies I simply cant ignore. But I will take your advice, the truth eventually comes out. Thanks.
Jump-steady
#13 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 5:00:18 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
I am glad you have reached out. You may think that no one is being deceived, but there are less educated people who read these blogs and take it as gospel truths. Just because I may not fall for the deceit, doesn't mean that I should sit back and let untruths reign, simply because it does not affect me. The Jews learned the hard way that by ignoring something because it does not affect them, when it does affect them, others may ignore their plight too. So to answer you, my conscience cant let me let false ideology be preached, because I know somewhere, someone may read such posts and think of them as true.
On a different note, I find it quite interesting that you block and demote posters who speak out against Islam, but no action is taken when Muslims speak badly about others. Granted I may have used brash words in my description, but it is nothing compared to guru's veiled threats, calling Christians mushriks ( I don't even know what this means but I presume its meant to insult us) and even inciting war against Christians. She has done this severally, but no action from you. I'm not complaining, just pointing out your bias, maybe you should also respect other people's views, not selectively censoring one side and letting the other side run wild.


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I have also observed that one-sidedness from @lady admin. I hope Wazua is not renamed Masjid shuhadaa mujahedeen wazua Pray
chepkel
#14 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 5:34:34 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
Thanks Washiku, point noted. The purpose of this post was to point out lies, but most importantly I really wanted to learn why such practices seem to be encouraged in Islam. I agree that religious wars are futile, in this case I wasn't necessarily defending the Christian side, I just couldn't resist responding to the lies. I am a strong critic of Christianity, but when I find outright lies I simply cant ignore. But I will take your advice, the truth eventually comes out. Thanks.


Islam is not propagating lies. Some stupid ignorant muslims are the ones who are doing that. You would be surprised how many people are soo ignorant about the religion despite the fact that they seem to be very knowledgeable.

Anyway, Washiku couldnt have put it in a better way.
tycho
#15 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 5:44:04 PM
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Deceive. Satan. No?

Satan, the accuser. The adversary.

And yet, what propels humanity? Life? Adversity. 'We must first disagree in order to agree'.

So how to deal with the deceiver? It's always a battle. Like Jacob and the angel.

You wrestle to the death. You become death. Where all fears we have are purged; and Life now reigns in the consciousness of Man. Superconsciousness.

And all accusation comes to a stop.



guru267
#16 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 9:15:36 PM
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@Nabwire I don't know why you are soo bitter and angry!

Islam simply means the "submission to the will of the one God" and a Muslim is a "servant of the one God" - GOOGLE IT

So going by that definition anyone who submits to the one God is a Muslim!

Therefore I maintain that Abraham, Jesus, Daniel, Isaac, Solomon, David etc etc were ALL MUSLIMS peace be upon them all!!!

Islam did not copy anyone... We are simply following the rules given to the likes of Abraham and Moses (as) who Jesus (as) also followed..

To be a Muslim one MUST follow the Torah of Moses and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... Its not optional for us so why do you want us to abandon them??

Mohammed (saw) just like Jesus (as) did not come to change God's law but implement it after others go astray!



Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Nabwire
#17 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 9:22:53 PM
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Save me the long winded reply, I'm not interested in Islam, I'm not going to google anything. Instead of digressing, answer the question at hand. Why you perpetrate lies in order to give Islam good PR, which is actually bad PR coz now my opinion of Islam is really low. People like you make Islam look bad, you put up a post saying Jesus was Muslim and gives reasons which are all false. That's what I'm debating, I'm not interested in what Islam has to offer, just interested in why Muslims like you think its justified to use deceit to convince people that your religion is good. That to me is no different than the Jim Jones cult. Correction, Abraham, Jesus, Daniel, Isaac, Solomon, David were all Jewish, you can lie to yourself all you want, but it wont change that fact. Interesting how you try to sell Islam using Jews, is it maybe because Mohammed had no positive character traits?
guru267
#18 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 9:30:54 PM
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I told you if the Christians did not do the following blunders God would have never sent Mohammad (saw) to bring Islam..

1. Accepting "Saint" Paul as Jesus' new rock instead of Saint Peter who you were instructed to accept. Sad

After the pagan Christian slayer invaded it was chaos with God's law being spat on left right and center with flimsy visions being given as excuses.

2. Eating pork
3. Abandoning circumcision
4. Inventing the trinity
5. Worshiping Jesus
6. Calling Mary mother of God Almighty
7. Calling Mary spouse of God Almighty
8. Praying to statues and crosses
9. Desecrating the true Sabbath
10. Jesus dying for our sins

Christianity was initially the first global religion until Satan invaded with these abominations.

Judaism would have been alright had they not rejected Jesus Christ, done black magic and angered God!

How can you believe in a Bible that has more than 1,000 pages dedicated to a Christian slayer while the Rock of Jesus was given a measly 20 pages Sad
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Nabwire
#19 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 9:31:49 PM
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I wont engage you if you don't answer my questions. I'm not interested in why Islam came about!
Nabwire
#20 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 9:34:39 PM
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By the way, just for the record, the ten reasons you have given are all reasons to convert to Judaism rather than Islam. If I'm gonna believe something, I go for the original, not wannabee remixes. Lemme google the nearest synagogue and go find inspiration!
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