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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Aguytrying wrote:dunkang wrote:Boss, you live in a world of your own. @realtreaty. you are way out of line. how will a company coming out of a 4-5b loss. a company that will make less than 1bn in profit pay around 750 million in dividends. be rational please. and what relation does realising fy results have with a suitor been found. I'm a shareholder too but stay rational otherwise you'll be bitterly disappointed when reality strikes @ Dunkang and @ Aguytrying Learn multiples at your own pace. KK is very cheap at 10 even while making losses. Remember it was a "Hedging Loss" This is like the money you splash for a wedding that does not change who the girl will be!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/16/2013 Posts: 123 Location: MSA
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Realtreaty wrote:Aguytrying wrote:dunkang wrote:Boss, you live in a world of your own. @realtreaty. you are way out of line. how will a company coming out of a 4-5b loss. a company that will make less than 1bn in profit pay around 750 million in dividends. be rational please. and what relation does realising fy results have with a suitor been found. I'm a shareholder too but stay rational otherwise you'll be bitterly disappointed when reality strikes @ Dunkang and @ Aguytrying Learn multiples at your own pace. KK is very cheap at 10 even while making losses. Remember it was a "Hedging Loss" This is like the money you splash for a wedding that does not change who the girl will be!!! And I hope they discontinued hedging, though they cant replicate total's performance, maybe close to have. We have also done the hedging business and lost almost 70% seed capital ($millions I must say)in one financial year. In market that has a time delay with the global market, it might work sometimes, but when it rains, it really rains! Well I still have my job!!! Timely advice is as lovely as golden apples in a silver basket. Proverbs 25:11
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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SittingPretty wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Aguytrying wrote:dunkang wrote:Boss, you live in a world of your own. @realtreaty. you are way out of line. how will a company coming out of a 4-5b loss. a company that will make less than 1bn in profit pay around 750 million in dividends. be rational please. and what relation does realising fy results have with a suitor been found. I'm a shareholder too but stay rational otherwise you'll be bitterly disappointed when reality strikes @ Dunkang and @ Aguytrying Learn multiples at your own pace. KK is very cheap at 10 even while making losses. Remember it was a "Hedging Loss" This is like the money you splash for a wedding that does not change who the girl will be!!! And I hope they discontinued hedging, though they cant replicate total's performance, maybe close to have. We have also done the hedging business and lost almost 70% seed capital ($millions I must say)in one financial year. In market that has a time delay with the global market, it might work sometimes, but when it rains, it really rains! Well I still have my job!!! They said no more new hedges though the old hedges were being 'burnt off' and that might cost KK a few more millions in 2013. Going into 2014, there would be new hedges or no hedging. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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FY 2013 results coming up the day after tomorrow, Thursday, 10th April #Tick Tock
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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mwekez@ji wrote:FY 2013 results coming up the day after tomorrow, Thursday, 10th April #Tick Tock These ones must be positive. No wonder they're not being released Friday midnight like FY2012  @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:FY 2013 results coming up the day after tomorrow, Thursday, 10th April #Tick Tock These ones must be positive. No wonder they're not being released Friday midnight like FY2012  true. but i wish they would get habit of releasing on monday. coz by next week monday, excitement may be over The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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mwekez@ji wrote:FY 2013 results coming up the day after tomorrow, Thursday, 10th April #Tick Tock Isn't the Year End 31st March? I doubt they can produce audited results in 10 days after the year end. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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VituVingiSana wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:FY 2013 results coming up the day after tomorrow, Thursday, 10th April #Tick Tock Isn't the Year End 31st March? I doubt they can produce audited results in 10 days after the year end. Used to be 30 September,changed to 31st Dec in 2007 or 2008.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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cnn wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:FY 2013 results coming up the day after tomorrow, Thursday, 10th April #Tick Tock Isn't the Year End 31st March? I doubt they can produce audited results in 10 days after the year end. Used to be 30 September,changed to 31st Dec in 2007 or 2008. Oops! KK is 31 Dec, KQ is 31 Mar. Wrong thread  Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/6/2013 Posts: 95
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Huge supply building up {10M} with an ask of up to 15shs. This is in anticipation of tomorrow's result release and demand also building up significantly. Their prospects are more important than the bottomline to rally the counter. Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:Huge supply building up {10M} with an ask of up to 15shs. This is in anticipation of tomorrow's result release and demand also building up significantly. Their prospects are more important than the bottomline to rally the counter. What site are you looking at ? The supply is 8000 vs a demand of 1.02 Million.
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/28/2014 Posts: 188 Location: Nairobi
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Profits to be announced :) Offering my personal finance knowledge for free
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/30/2010 Posts: 183 Location: Migingo
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Going forward, i think Kenol Kobil has quite some work to be done. Most of its service stations are as dilapidated as they are outdated. I used to fuel at one of the service stations along Lusaka road but went there two weeks ago only to find it closed down. Don't Work for Money, Let Money Work for You..
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/6/2013 Posts: 95
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Metasploit wrote:CASHFLOW202 wrote:Huge supply building up {10M} with an ask of up to 15shs. This is in anticipation of tomorrow's result release and demand also building up significantly. Their prospects are more important than the bottomline to rally the counter. What site are you looking at ? The supply is 8000 vs a demand of 1.02 Million. http://www.richlive.co.ke/bdexp/index.php
http://www.richlive.co.k...%11%7F%DD%090a%7CZ%7D%F7Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Metasploit wrote:CASHFLOW202 wrote:Huge supply building up {10M} with an ask of up to 15shs. This is in anticipation of tomorrow's result release and demand also building up significantly. Their prospects are more important than the bottomline to rally the counter. What site are you looking at ? The supply is 8000 vs a demand of 1.02 Million. stock total demand total supply best bid best ask prev. close last price change turnover deals time KENO 1,133,800 10,112,600 10.15 10.80 10.10 10.35 0.25 5,512,315 54 13:10:24 C:\richTools richLIVE N_S_E WORKSPACE.mht The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:Huge supply building up {10M} with an ask of up to 15shs. This is in anticipation of tomorrow's result release and demand also building up significantly. Their prospects are more important than the bottomline to rally the counter. Stop conning us. The MAXIMUM price at which shares can be offered at is 10% above VWAP when there is no material info. And that would be 11.50 at most!!!! At 15, there would be many more shares for sale than the 15 you are quoting. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:Metasploit wrote:[quote=CASHFLOW202]Huge supply building up {10M} with an ask of up to 15shs. This is in anticipation of tomorrow's result release and demand also building up significantly. Their prospects are more important than the bottomline to rally the counter. What site are you looking at ? The supply is 8000 vs a demand of 1.02 Million. http://www.richlive.co.ke/bdexp/index.php
http://www.richlive.co.k...11%7F%DD%090a%7CZ%7D%F7[/quote] At rich aggregates.Plus the 10 M supply was an error. Noted a good volume trade at 10.50,lets see if bulls will keep the ball rolling
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Rush to cash on capital gain pushes the price to 9.35 from 10.50 The price of KK will still go up after the book closure.
No one will know when a new partner will come as this will be a guarded idea. Back to basics as KK resolves all its Front office cases at back office!!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/6/2013 Posts: 95
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VituVingiSana wrote:CASHFLOW202 wrote:Huge supply building up {10M} with an ask of up to 15shs. This is in anticipation of tomorrow's result release and demand also building up significantly. Their prospects are more important than the bottomline to rally the counter. Stop conning us. The MAXIMUM price at which shares can be offered at is 10% above VWAP when there is no material info. And that would be 11.50 at most!!!! At 15, there would be many more shares for sale than the 15 you are quoting. yesterday more than 10M shares changed hands with a turnover of more than 100M on this counter. So no monkey business @Vituvingisana. Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
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