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Richard Corcoran - Kenyan Tourism In Dire Straits
Mukiri
#31 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 12:42:06 AM
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B.Timer wrote:
I also do agree that Poaching can be checked much better than we are doing. To be fair though, Tanzania and other African Countries are also faced with this menace.

Do you get to hear also that some corrupt VIP is associated with the vice? And for one reason or the other, justice cannot be meted out on him?

Corruption is working against us.
B.Timer wrote:
Businessmen will always attempt to lobby Government as they canvass for preferential treatment even in circumstances where it is not justified.

Why for example would tour vehicles expect to
have a different set of rules in relation to other PSVs!!

One, because of the terrain they cover. We need to phase out the Nissan caravans and replace them with Land-cruisers that handle off-road better. Its raining now, have you visited Mara at the height of mud-baths? Think wear-and-tear, think client comfort, think image, think competition (with other countries)
B.Timer wrote:
I have no issue with the park fees being increased to $90 as Kenya deserves to earn equitable revenue from her resources and as is usual, every passing year, prices across all sectors go up as a matter of course.

How do you reduce the attraction(poaching), its accessibility (bad roads), security(terrorism) and still increase park fees?
B.Timer wrote:
Year in year out we keep hearig how we should grow our tourist arrival numbers.
Doesnt that of necessity mean that we have to increase our bed capacity!

No. Because the numbers keep falling and falling. If you want something simple to understand, look at KQs performance. Losses upon losses. That industry is hurting as much as tourism.

We need a balance of payment, with our imports ever increasing and exports on the decline, our Shilling will take a beating. With recent insecurity making matters far much worse.

There is cause for alarm.

Proverbs 19:21
Rankaz13
#32 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 9:48:00 AM
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An opinion.

With high ivory prices, enforcement alone won’t stop poaching
Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
B.Timer
#33 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 1:05:45 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
B.Timer wrote:
I also do agree that Poaching can be checked much better than we are doing. To be fair though, Tanzania and other African Countries are also faced with this menace.

Do you get to hear also that some corrupt VIP is associated with the vice? And for one reason or the other, justice cannot be meted out on him?

Corruption is working against us.
B.Timer wrote:
Businessmen will always attempt to lobby Government as they canvass for preferential treatment even in circumstances where it is not justified.

Why for example would tour vehicles expect to
have a different set of rules in relation to other PSVs!!

One, because of the terrain they cover. We need to phase out the Nissan caravans and replace them with Land-cruisers that handle off-road better. Its raining now, have you visited Mara at the height of mud-baths? Think wear-and-tear, think client comfort, think image, think competition (with other countries)
B.Timer wrote:
I have no issue with the park fees being increased to $90 as Kenya deserves to earn equitable revenue from her resources and as is usual, every passing year, prices across all sectors go up as a matter of course.

How do you reduce the attraction(poaching), its accessibility (bad roads), security(terrorism) and still increase park fees?
B.Timer wrote:
Year in year out we keep hearig how we should grow our tourist arrival numbers.
Doesnt that of necessity mean that we have to increase our bed capacity!

No. Because the numbers keep falling and falling. If you want something simple to understand, look at KQs performance. Losses upon losses. That industry is hurting as much as tourism.

We need a balance of payment, with our imports ever increasing and exports on the decline, our Shilling will take a beating. With recent insecurity making matters far much worse.

There is cause for alarm.


I am not sure we are on the same page!

You may need to read Richard Corcoran letter again then consider my points in that context.

Neither am I saying all is fine and dandy!


Dunia ni msongamano..
Obi 1 Kanobi
#34 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 2:11:24 PM
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murchr wrote:
Truth be told. We currently have no one at the Tourism docket. The Ministry is huge. Since it carries the EAC, Commerce and Tourism. To this date Kandie has not appointed the head of the Kenya Tourism board. This would be the person advising govt on matters tourism. She is too engrossed in the EAC docket and has no time for commerce also. Apart from that, the Narok country executive need to get themselves in order, who isn't tired of the mara roads stories?

As for security...the coast will be problematic for a while. Until those bigots are wiped out. At the moment the problem is not from Somalia but Kenyans wanting to fight for Somalia in the name of religion. This will take sometime.


This specific CS is in the same league with Akina Ole Lenku, the educ Lunatic and Rachael Omamo. No shows
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Jus Blazin
#35 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23:09 PM
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Prop up domestic tourism. The Mara is not the only place to go. We need Kenyans visiting the Nairobi National Park that is just next door to many, or the likes of Ol Donyo Sabuk, etc. When we rely mainly on international tourists, we are bound to be affected by the shocks. But sisi Wakenya tuko hapa.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Obi 1 Kanobi
#36 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 2:46:19 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
Prop up domestic tourism. The Mara is not the only place to go. We need Kenyans visiting the Nairobi National Park that is just next door to many, or the likes of Ol Donyo Sabuk, etc. When we rely mainly on international tourists, we are bound to be affected by the shocks. But sisi Wakenya tuko hapa.


Domestic and foreign tourisim are not substitutes, there is nothing wrong with having both domestic and foreign tourism both thriving.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Jus Blazin
#37 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 2:46:33 PM
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Get yourself a copy of the book Capitalist Nigger.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Kratos
#38 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 2:47:58 PM
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alma wrote:
Ectasy I know Kraos will be crying like a baby after I tell you the solution.


DUMP THE JUBILEE GOVERNMENT COS THEY CAN'T DO SHIT.

But you have another solution that is palatable to loving muthamaki. Good luck

the questions asked were the answers

No one is swallowing the koolaid. just kratos.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I see you have woken up from your drunken stupor from the 3am sheri post.

Anyway sasa mimi naingilia wapi? I told you, your obsession with hating Jubilee will give you hemorrhoids if you don’t have them already. You never miss a chance to childishly attack jubilee government even when you have no facts to back you up. Anyway if you insist, Jubilee is the cause of all evil in the world, happy?

As you were, hemorrhoid’s gang chairman.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Jus Blazin
#39 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 2:48:14 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
Prop up domestic tourism. The Mara is not the only place to go. We need Kenyans visiting the Nairobi National Park that is just next door to many, or the likes of Ol Donyo Sabuk, etc. When we rely mainly on international tourists, we are bound to be affected by the shocks. But sisi Wakenya tuko hapa.


Domestic and foreign tourisim are not substitutes, there is nothing wrong with having both domestic and foreign tourism both thriving.

No one said there's something wrong. But it seems like when foreign tourism takes a hit, tourism has taken a big hit, and yet, we should strive to have an increase in domestic tourism that can offer a buffer zone when foreign tourism takes a hit.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Jus Blazin
#40 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 3:06:59 PM
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Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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