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Is @Admin anti Christianity?
guru267
#21 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 3:02:23 AM
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So let me guess Jesus the man had no clue about judgement day but "God the son" knows exactly when it is??

How come Jesus the man got all his power from the Father and yet he could have easily used "God the son" for this purpose??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#22 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 7:47:46 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
If being Christian is being like Jesus (a.s) then I would like to be enlightened, hoping that this will be a dialogue rather than a monologue as we saw in the other two threads. Let's go... @alma is waiting already

how can it be dialogue when you two are not interested in dialogue but fighting the Christian faith? It will be another usered thread

@Laughing out loudly! if I tell you look here brother, there seems to be a problem here, see God Himself is telling us "I One God and don't worship any other apart from me", them i tell you brother, you see One is not two or three or four... one in English mean "1", and i tell you "apart from" means no other than. Is this not dialogue? Then i say Jesus (a.s) himself said, "hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord". Jesus (a.s) didn't say "Your God", he said "our God", which in English means him included. and he says "there is one God". And I support my claims with a verse. Is this not dialogue? I'm interested in dialogue. Dialogue is a respectful conversation..



Excellent!

I appreciate your intention to be scholastic about this. Quotes from relevant books will be very important in this matter.

Now, scholastically, do you take the snippets you have mentioned as:
(a) parts of a whole, single unit or
(b) just (random) bits and pieces of information?

Mukiri
#23 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 8:21:45 AM
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guru267 wrote:
So let me guess Jesus the man had no clue about judgement day but "God the son" knows exactly when it is??

How come Jesus the man got all his power from the Father and yet he could have easily used "God the son" for this purpose??

I see you've engaged full gear to fight Christianity? Terrorize us in Wazua and have all our threads closed?

Anti-Christ indeed. Your prophesy is already written and fate sealed. Hii yote ni kelele tu.

Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#24 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 9:31:01 AM
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Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
If being Christian is being like Jesus (a.s) then I would like to be enlightened, hoping that this will be a dialogue rather than a monologue as we saw in the other two threads. Let's go... @alma is waiting already

how can it be dialogue when you two are not interested in dialogue but fighting the Christian faith? It will be another usered thread

@Laughing out loudly! if I tell you look here brother, there seems to be a problem here, see God Himself is telling us "I One God and don't worship any other apart from me", them i tell you brother, you see One is not two or three or four... one in English mean "1", and i tell you "apart from" means no other than. Is this not dialogue? Then i say Jesus (a.s) himself said, "hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord". Jesus (a.s) didn't say "Your God", he said "our God", which in English means him included. and he says "there is one God". And I support my claims with a verse. Is this not dialogue? I'm interested in dialogue. Dialogue is a respectful conversation..

Excellent!

I appreciate your intention to be scholastic about this. Quotes from relevant books will be very important in this matter.

Now, scholastically, do you take the snippets you have mentioned as:
(a) parts of a whole, single unit or
(b) just (random) bits and pieces of information?

Which other parts do you have in mind? Please enumerate so that we can analyze.
guru267
#25 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 9:39:25 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
So let me guess Jesus the man had no clue about judgement day but "God the son" knows exactly when it is??

How come Jesus the man got all his power from the Father and yet he could have easily used "God the son" for this purpose??

I see you've engaged full gear to fight Christianity? Terrorize us in Wazua and have all our threads closed?

Anti-Christ indeed. Your prophesy is already written and fate sealed. Hii yote ni kelele tu.


The only reason your threads are closed is because of how you answer questions with too much emotion!

Is questioning a religion in any way fighting it??

Does your religion tell you to condemn and judge others to hell??

Any religion that cannot withstand rigorous questioning is not worth an ounce of its salt! Sad

Its simple answer the questions or find someone else to respond to!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#26 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 9:53:09 AM
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If being son of God means being God Why does the Bible call Adam "son of God" in Luke 3:38??

Answer: Because he was not created from any sperm! Just like Jesus... smile

Some will say but jesus is "Son" with capital "S"

My question: How can you tell the difference between a capital "S" and small "s" in spoken speech!?


Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#27 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 10:03:13 AM
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How can Islam be the Anti Christ?

In Islam we believe hat Jesus is the Messiah, born of the virgin Mary and annointed with the Holy Spirit!

We believe in all his teachings and miracles!

We believe that he was supposed to be killed by the Jews who denied him!

We believe that he ascended into heaven to sit at the right hand of God!

We believe that he will return to redeem us from the AntiChrist and for judgement under God's instruction!

We believe he will reign over the world during which it will be heaven on earth!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#28 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 10:06:02 AM
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The only Anti-Christ would be anyone who denied Jesus was the Christ or anyone who elevates him to a status that is above the Christ...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#29 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 10:18:03 AM
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Oh! Alphdoti!

I made an assumption. Sorry. I have no other parts except what you have already mentioned in post no.6 that are:

I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me:

and

Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Do you take these snippets of text as:
(a) integral parts of a whole, single volume, that is, are they (essential) constituents of a larger undiminished entirety? or
(b) just (random) bits and pieces of information, text to be strung together as thought, as desired or as wanted?

And while at it, I take it these texts are authoritative, that is to say they can be used to influence, sway an opinion in one way or the other in a manner as you have used them to try to influence opinions.

guru267
#30 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 10:51:37 AM
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10 reasons why Jesus the Messiah and Christ was a Muslim!

1. He believed in one God (did not discuss, teach or pray to Trinity)
2. He only ate halal food (as instructed in the OT)
3. He never touched pork
4. He did not drink alcohol (not all wine is alcoholic)
5. He grew a beard
6. He was circumcised
7. His mother wore a hijab
8. He prostrated to God in prayer
9. He fasted
10. He always wore ihram (Unstitched garments and sandals)
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
tycho
#31 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 11:14:33 AM
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guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Is there anywhere in the Bible Jesus himself talks about DYING FOR OUR SINS??

All the references I find talk about him being killed only because he was hated by the jews!

"Dying for our sins" looks like another invention Sad



@guru, all religion is made of invention, and trying to highlight other religion's inventions instead of the inventions in your own isn't only hypocrisy but a highly advanced form of idleness which in my opinion opens up opportunities for things like terrorism.

Why, it seems like @Hamburglar is better company in Wazua. Only we don't seem to engage him on 'proper grounds'.


You havent answered my question?

The things we believe in Islam were spoken by God or Muhammad....

Unless you consider Paul a prophet where is "dying for sins" spoken by Jesus himself??


I wasn't attempting to answer the question @guru. I was commenting on your question and pointing out that what you're doing (claiming to expose other's 'weaknesses' is really exposing your own, and denying humanity the opportunity to have more constructive dialogue.
wazua
#32 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 11:24:23 AM
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Dear Members,

If what's transpired in this thread...
is christianity, then we are definitely anti-christianity;
is islam, then we are definitely for war;
is insight, then we are definitely for ignorance;
is comradeship, then we are definitely for enmity;
is the wazua spirit, then we are definitely 'madeemoni'.

The Wazua spirit

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