guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:Ishmael came about from Abraham's(Sarah's actually) impatience with God's promise. Getting a child with their mboch. And how it has brought strife
How Ishmael came about doesn't really matter... A son is a son! Children are formed from sperm not ovaries according to science...
And i do agree it was because she was a slave girl and Sarah was his wife that the children of Isaac were given the first chance to rule Israel and be God's chosen ones.
If the children of Isaac, Jacob and David wanted keep the kingdom and to gain eternal life all they had to do was love God alone and obey his messengers!
John 17:3The children of Ishmael did not force the Jews to spit on God's words and kill his messengers...
Matthew 21:33-46God really had no choice but to cancel this contract and
try out the other children of Abraham (Ishmael)!

The Jews are just on some sour grapes because their Kingdom was taken from them and given to 'pagan' Arabs!
Try out
Allah is not certain.
He is not sure.
He 'tries out' - maybe it will work, maybe it won't.
He is not sure.
Pata potea.
He gambles.
Are you sure he has got it right?
What if he was wrong?
What if he is now wrong, again?
How can I be certain allah is god if he doesn't exhibit 'godly' attributes like omniscience?
Perhaps Mohammed did a poor job when copy pasting, ctrl+c and ctrl+v from torah and bible.
What if allah is a hoax?
I am not certain, just as Allah!
I am not sure.
I will 'try out' maybe its true, maybe its not.
Pata potea.
I will gamble.
Are you sure I have got it wrong?
What if I am right?