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Rankaz13
#61 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:55:25 PM
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#62 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:37:22 PM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly why is yu dead or dying with his mouth wide open?
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#63 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:41:35 AM
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mpobiz wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly why is yu dead or dying with his mouth wide open?


Gasping for air?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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#64 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 6:54:42 AM
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hisah wrote:
Still trying to digest the approval.

http://www.bloomberg.com...om-airtel-purchase.html

Mpesa bank not interested. I prefer this outcome. Too much conditions make the deal unfavourable. I won't be surprised when Yu folds as bidders walk away - I don't expect member to buy it if Yu rivals walk away. CCK is too green here. They need a proper M&A section or firm to strike a clear deal. I repeat, Yu will fold and that will throw a sizable hammer towards Orange KE. Then the telco sector will stink due to toxic assets left by those two. The job losses won't be funny as well as defaults. Treasury and state hse need to watch this carefully...

http://www.businessdaily.../-/24owyjz/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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murchr
#65 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 7:03:17 AM
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hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
Still trying to digest the approval.

http://www.bloomberg.com...om-airtel-purchase.html

Mpesa bank not interested. I prefer this outcome. Too much conditions make the deal unfavourable. I won't be surprised when Yu folds as bidders walk away - I don't expect member to buy it if Yu rivals walk away. CCK is too green here. They need a proper M&A section or firm to strike a clear deal. I repeat, Yu will fold and that will throw a sizable hammer towards Orange KE. Then the telco sector will stink due to toxic assets left by those two. The job losses won't be funny as well as defaults. Treasury and state hse need to watch this carefully...

http://www.businessdaily.../-/24owyjz/-/index.html


I wonder what motive CAK had.
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#66 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 8:45:34 AM
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murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
Still trying to digest the approval.

http://www.bloomberg.com...om-airtel-purchase.html

Mpesa bank not interested. I prefer this outcome. Too much conditions make the deal unfavourable. I won't be surprised when Yu folds as bidders walk away - I don't expect member to buy it if Yu rivals walk away. CCK is too green here. They need a proper M&A section or firm to strike a clear deal. I repeat, Yu will fold and that will throw a sizable hammer towards Orange KE. Then the telco sector will stink due to toxic assets left by those two. The job losses won't be funny as well as defaults. Treasury and state hse need to watch this carefully...

http://www.businessdaily.../-/24owyjz/-/index.html


I wonder what motive CAK had.

There are some Nigerians who have USD 200M, whilst SafCom-Airtel deal is USD 100M. That is why!
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#67 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 9:08:04 AM
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dunkang wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
Still trying to digest the approval.

http://www.bloomberg.com...om-airtel-purchase.html

Mpesa bank not interested. I prefer this outcome. Too much conditions make the deal unfavourable. I won't be surprised when Yu folds as bidders walk away - I don't expect member to buy it if Yu rivals walk away. CCK is too green here. They need a proper M&A section or firm to strike a clear deal. I repeat, Yu will fold and that will throw a sizable hammer towards Orange KE. Then the telco sector will stink due to toxic assets left by those two. The job losses won't be funny as well as defaults. Treasury and state hse need to watch this carefully...

http://www.businessdaily.../-/24owyjz/-/index.html


I wonder what motive CAK had.

There are some Nigerians who have USD 200M, whilst SafCom-Airtel deal is USD 100M. That is why!


And what was Equity deal? ... We dint want this deal to go to to oligopolists' safcon and airtel, but we also dont want it to go naija
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#68 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 9:24:43 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
dunkang wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
Still trying to digest the approval.

http://www.bloomberg.com...om-airtel-purchase.html

Mpesa bank not interested. I prefer this outcome. Too much conditions make the deal unfavourable. I won't be surprised when Yu folds as bidders walk away - I don't expect member to buy it if Yu rivals walk away. CCK is too green here. They need a proper M&A section or firm to strike a clear deal. I repeat, Yu will fold and that will throw a sizable hammer towards Orange KE. Then the telco sector will stink due to toxic assets left by those two. The job losses won't be funny as well as defaults. Treasury and state hse need to watch this carefully...

http://www.businessdaily.../-/24owyjz/-/index.html


I wonder what motive CAK had.

There are some Nigerians who have USD 200M, whilst SafCom-Airtel deal is USD 100M. That is why!


And what was Equity deal? ... We dint want this deal to go to to oligopolists' safcon and airtel, but we also dont want it to go naija

These Nigerians, Mega-tech Engineering Limited, have no TeleCom background. So, it seems Ekwete may be behind the screen, controlling them. Its just a maybe.
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#69 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 9:28:28 AM
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@dunkang - how well are the naija bank subsidiaries in KE fairing? The telco sector bizarre loyalty is similar to EABL's tusker brand. Next, how well do the locals view the naija reputation? Good luck to the prospective naija camp. Tough market this one and I hope price wars will not be their strategy, it's become too boring.
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#70 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 10:41:31 AM
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murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
Still trying to digest the approval.

http://www.bloomberg.com...om-airtel-purchase.html

Mpesa bank not interested. I prefer this outcome. Too much conditions make the deal unfavourable. I won't be surprised when Yu folds as bidders walk away - I don't expect member to buy it if Yu rivals walk away. CCK is too green here. They need a proper M&A section or firm to strike a clear deal. I repeat, Yu will fold and that will throw a sizable hammer towards Orange KE. Then the telco sector will stink due to toxic assets left by those two. The job losses won't be funny as well as defaults. Treasury and state hse need to watch this carefully...

http://www.businessdaily.../-/24owyjz/-/index.html


I wonder what motive CAK had.


I have a feeling, one of these days, the authorities will push for total separation between Safcom proper and mpesa bank on the argument of having Safcom offer telco services and let mpesa concentrate on financial services (think AT & T, Standard Oil, etc). I could be wrong though, but personally I'd favor such a scenario. I think it's needed in order to restore some vibrancy and innovation in our telco sector as well as level out competition.
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#71 Posted : Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:58:30 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:
Still trying to digest the approval.

http://www.bloomberg.com...om-airtel-purchase.html

Mpesa bank not interested. I prefer this outcome. Too much conditions make the deal unfavourable. I won't be surprised when Yu folds as bidders walk away - I don't expect member to buy it if Yu rivals walk away. CCK is too green here. They need a proper M&A section or firm to strike a clear deal. I repeat, Yu will fold and that will throw a sizable hammer towards Orange KE. Then the telco sector will stink due to toxic assets left by those two. The job losses won't be funny as well as defaults. Treasury and state hse need to watch this carefully...

http://www.businessdaily.../-/24owyjz/-/index.html


I wonder what motive CAK had.


I have a feeling, one of these days, the authorities will push for total separation between Safcom proper and mpesa bank on the argument of having Safcom offer telco services and let mpesa concentrate on financial services (think AT & T, Standard Oil, etc). I could be wrong though, but personally I'd favor such a scenario. I think it's needed in order to restore some vibrancy and innovation in our telco sector as well as level out competition.


This has already been suggested by CBK and its under discussion, though Safcom will obviously oppose it.
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#72 Posted : Sunday, April 06, 2014 5:19:23 PM
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hisah wrote:
@dunkang - how well are the naija bank subsidiaries in KE fairing? The telco sector bizarre loyalty is similar to EABL's tusker brand. Next, how well do the locals view the naija reputation? Good luck to the prospective naija camp. Tough market this one and I hope price wars will not be their strategy, it's become too boring.


Their banking subsidiaries are not doing well, lukewarm i must say. I don't see any other player coming in and expecting to get cosy without a vicious war. Telco's in KE should think less about voice and more about data. With digital TV becoming a reality, this will be the new money maker. (Watch TV from anywhere from laptops tablets and phones)

Watsapp, twitter have taken over SMS, both personal and broadcast but one has to have an internet connection to tweet facebook and to watssapp. Soon Telcos will not care about voice---might offer it free.

Rankaz13 wrote:
I have a feeling, one of these days, the authorities will push for total separation between Safcom proper and mpesa bank on the argument of having Safcom offer telco services and let mpesa concentrate on financial services (think AT & T, Standard Oil, etc). I could be wrong though, but personally I'd favor such a scenario. I think it's needed in order to restore some vibrancy and innovation in our telco sector as well as level out competition.


They might IF it will be politically correct BUT, the telco industry is evolving world wide. Most of the world is embracing mobile money - apart from America where the banking industry is well guarded by politricks, banks have their own applications that they use to bank checks and transfer money in one way or another but truth be told what we have in Kenya is more advanced. I read somewhere that Michael Joseph was launching Mpesa in Europe so Obama land might be left alone.

In my opinion. I see Safcom transforming into what Vodafone is offer telco services and TV. If it does this FAST, then the likes of Nation will be Kaput in the coming years.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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