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masukuma
#251 Posted : Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:38:53 PM
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Murang'a wrote:
theman192000 wrote:
The reality is that Injera has lost his speed and Treu is trying to transition him to be a play maker like Tomasi Cama. This is akin to teaching a right handed person to write with his left hand.

If you listened to yesterday's morning interview on KTN, Benjamin Ayimba said that the reason that Khayange does not play is because he does not agree with Treu's methods and I can't say I blame him. Ayimba also said that the technical bench is a bunch of overpaid underachievers who need to be shown the door.

What say you?


But why is he trying to teach an old dog new tricks, he should bring back Humphrey. The absence of Humphrey and Willy 'Lomu' is been felt in the team. The only Oscar I have noticed is Ayodi since Ouma has been a mediocre ths season...Sikuta has potential for contact game but has to work a lot espcially on his tackling. He should bring back Humphrey as he buys time to develop one of the young lads into a Tomasi Cama...
What about Ayange?

sijui Ayange and Wanjala walienda wapi.... while bringing back Khayange may work for a while - we need long term solutions. we must be willing to 'survive' for 1-2 seasons before we make it big! hii kuwa number 4-5 hatatusaidia. we need to win one tournament and have a good show for the
olympics and the worldcup.
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tkzee
#252 Posted : Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:58:20 PM
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Murang'a wrote:
theman192000 wrote:
The reality is that Injera has lost his speed and Treu is trying to transition him to be a play maker like Tomasi Cama. This is akin to teaching a right handed person to write with his left hand.

If you listened to yesterday's morning interview on KTN, Benjamin Ayimba said that the reason that Khayange does not play is because he does not agree with Treu's methods and I can't say I blame him. Ayimba also said that the technical bench is a bunch of overpaid underachievers who need to be shown the door.

What say you?


But why is he trying to teach an old dog new tricks, he should bring back Humphrey. The absence of Humphrey and Willy 'Lomu' is been felt in the team. The only Oscar I have noticed is Ayodi since Ouma has been a mediocre ths season...Sikuta has potential for contact game but has to work a lot espcially on his tackling. He should bring back Humphrey as he buys time to develop one of the young lads into a Tomasi Cama...
What about Ayange?

It seems you're not upto date.Willy is playing pro rugby in France while am not sure whether Humphrey went back to Britain to clear his studies. As for Ayange its not clear why he is not part of the squad especially after Wanjala got injured.
Ayimba is entitled for his own opinions.I think he had preference for a local coach to take over the team hence the comments.Its a fact that we still don't have the local expertise to handle our 7s team. Think about this for a moment..Why would Fiji go for Ben Ryan while Serevi was there?Australia is seeking a foreign coach to take over after Mike O'connor.That just shows u 7s coaches are few and far and we have one of the best.
''i can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies,but not the madness of people''-Isaac Newton
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tkzee
#253 Posted : Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:15:38 PM
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masukuma wrote:

sijui Ayange and Wanjala walienda wapi.... while bringing back Khayange may work for a while - we need long term solutions. we must be willing to 'survive' for 1-2 seasons before we make it big! hii kuwa number 4-5 hatatusaidia. we need to win one tournament and have a good show for the
olympics and the worldcup.


@ Masukuma-Thats why Treu was brought in to create depth in the team & also to develop a squad for Rio 2016.
Some teams like Samoa have already realised this and have started building on that.
''i can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies,but not the madness of people''-Isaac Newton
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masukuma
#254 Posted : Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:44:58 PM
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tkzee wrote:
masukuma wrote:

sijui Ayange and Wanjala walienda wapi.... while bringing back Khayange may work for a while - we need long term solutions. we must be willing to 'survive' for 1-2 seasons before we make it big! hii kuwa number 4-5 hatatusaidia. we need to win one tournament and have a good show for the
olympics and the worldcup.


@ Masukuma-Thats why Treu was brought in to create depth in the team & also to develop a squad for Rio 2016.
Some teams like Samoa have already realised this and have started building on that.

let's see what will happens. NZ has also been experimenting with younger players.
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Murang'a
#255 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:44:52 AM
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tkzee wrote:
Murang'a wrote:
theman192000 wrote:
The reality is that Injera has lost his speed and Treu is trying to transition him to be a play maker like Tomasi Cama. This is akin to teaching a right handed person to write with his left hand.

If you listened to yesterday's morning interview on KTN, Benjamin Ayimba said that the reason that Khayange does not play is because he does not agree with Treu's methods and I can't say I blame him. Ayimba also said that the technical bench is a bunch of overpaid underachievers who need to be shown the door.

What say you?


But why is he trying to teach an old dog new tricks, he should bring back Humphrey. The absence of Humphrey and Willy 'Lomu' is been felt in the team. The only Oscar I have noticed is Ayodi since Ouma has been a mediocre ths season...Sikuta has potential for contact game but has to work a lot espcially on his tackling. He should bring back Humphrey as he buys time to develop one of the young lads into a Tomasi Cama...
What about Ayange?

It seems you're not upto date.Willy is playing pro rugby in France while am not sure whether Humphrey went back to Britain to clear his studies. As for Ayange its not clear why he is not part of the squad especially after Wanjala got injured.
Ayimba is entitled for his own opinions.I think he had preference for a local coach to take over the team hence the comments.Its a fact that we still don't have the local expertise to handle our 7s team. Think about this for a moment..Why would Fiji go for Ben Ryan while Serevi was there?Australia is seeking a foreign coach to take over after Mike O'connor.That just shows u 7s coaches are few and far and we have one of the best.

I know Ambaka left for Lyon and thts why am saying Treu should create a team that wil fill in the gap he left, look at Canada playing without Sean Duke and u might not even notice hayuko...Kayange is in school but so is kina Oscar and they play at times...
IMITATION IS LIMITATION
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theman192000
#256 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:13:11 AM
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Murang'a wrote:
tkzee wrote:
Murang'a wrote:
theman192000 wrote:
The reality is that Injera has lost his speed and Treu is trying to transition him to be a play maker like Tomasi Cama. This is akin to teaching a right handed person to write with his left hand.

If you listened to yesterday's morning interview on KTN, Benjamin Ayimba said that the reason that Khayange does not play is because he does not agree with Treu's methods and I can't say I blame him. Ayimba also said that the technical bench is a bunch of overpaid underachievers who need to be shown the door.

What say you?


But why is he trying to teach an old dog new tricks, he should bring back Humphrey. The absence of Humphrey and Willy 'Lomu' is been felt in the team. The only Oscar I have noticed is Ayodi since Ouma has been a mediocre ths season...Sikuta has potential for contact game but has to work a lot espcially on his tackling. He should bring back Humphrey as he buys time to develop one of the young lads into a Tomasi Cama...
What about Ayange?

It seems you're not upto date.Willy is playing pro rugby in France while am not sure whether Humphrey went back to Britain to clear his studies. As for Ayange its not clear why he is not part of the squad especially after Wanjala got injured.
Ayimba is entitled for his own opinions.I think he had preference for a local coach to take over the team hence the comments.Its a fact that we still don't have the local expertise to handle our 7s team. Think about this for a moment..Why would Fiji go for Ben Ryan while Serevi was there?Australia is seeking a foreign coach to take over after Mike O'connor.That just shows u 7s coaches are few and far and we have one of the best.

I know Ambaka left for Lyon and thts why am saying Treu should create a team that wil fill in the gap he left, look at Canada playing without Sean Duke and u might not even notice hayuko...Kayange is in school but so is kina Oscar and they play at times...


This in school business is called managing Public Relations.
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Alba
#257 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 3:24:54 PM
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tkzee wrote:
masukuma wrote:

sijui Ayange and Wanjala walienda wapi.... while bringing back Khayange may work for a while - we need long term solutions. we must be willing to 'survive' for 1-2 seasons before we make it big! hii kuwa number 4-5 hatatusaidia. we need to win one tournament and have a good show for the
olympics and the worldcup.


@ Masukuma-Thats why Treu was brought in to create depth in the team & also to develop a squad for Rio 2016.
Some teams like Samoa have already realised this and have started building on that.


When I see the errors and poor tactical approach under Treu I have serious doubts about whether he is buildong for the future.

These guys have been committing the same errors and applying the same wrong tactics at every tournament. I would have believed the whole "building for the future" thing if I saw improvement from one tournament to the next.

There is nothing in the way Kenya is playing that can make you optimistic about the future.

And surely that Injera at playmaker experiment should have ended after Las Vegas. Maybe he should be deployed as an impact player.
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tkzee
#258 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 10:25:17 PM
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Alba wrote:
tkzee wrote:
masukuma wrote:

sijui Ayange and Wanjala walienda wapi.... while bringing back Khayange may work for a while - we need long term solutions. we must be willing to 'survive' for 1-2 seasons before we make it big! hii kuwa number 4-5 hatatusaidia. we need to win one tournament and have a good show for the
olympics and the worldcup.


@ Masukuma-Thats why Treu was brought in to create depth in the team & also to develop a squad for Rio 2016.
Some teams like Samoa have already realised this and have started building on that.


When I see the errors and poor tactical approach under Treu I have serious doubts about whether he is buildong for the future.

These guys have been committing the same errors and applying the same wrong tactics at every tournament. I would have believed the whole "building for the future" thing if I saw improvement from one tournament to the next.

There is nothing in the way Kenya is playing that can make you optimistic about the future.

And surely that Injera at playmaker experiment should have ended after Las Vegas. Maybe he should be deployed as an impact player.

Tactically we may not be there yet but there are other areas the team has improved i.e. line speed has highly improved and tackle completion.
Realise that Rugby is a team sport and not an individual.Also,except for Injera,Biko,Amonde (who is injured),Horace and Oscar the rest of the players were not core players in the previous season.Give them time to learn and grow.
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Alba
#259 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 2:58:11 PM
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tkzee wrote:


Tactically we may not be there yet but there are other areas the team has improved i.e. line speed has highly improved and tackle completion.
Realise that Rugby is a team sport and not an individual.Also,except for Injera,Biko,Amonde (who is injured),Horace and Oscar the rest of the players were not core players in the previous season.Give them time to learn and grow.



Tackle completion has improved ? This is one of the areas the team has regressed badly. Are you watching the games ? Missed tackles galore. Kenya were much better even in 2009 under Benja.

I am not sure what you mean by line speed. But one thing that has been pointed out in the media is that Kenya has lost its flair. Instead of running around defenders like they used to, they are now trying to run through them. They almost always turn the ball over when they try to run through the brick wall that is Fiji.

Another worrying trend is the alarming number of errors.

I am not sure what Treu is trying to build. But it seems he is building in the wrong direction.
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bkismat
#260 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 2:31:36 PM
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lost 19-24 to wales. next up fiji
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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