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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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I think the courts explained clearly that the CCK had no mandate to give tenders. Maybe you didn't want to read that part of the ruling. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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since cck has no mandate to give tenders, does that mean all the tenders they have given are void.
who dished out the mobile operator licenses, ama that is different.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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nakujua wrote:since cck has no mandate to give tenders, does that mean all the tenders they have given are void.
who dished out the mobile operator licenses, ama that is different. Since 2010 when the constitution came in to force. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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alma wrote:I agree with above.
What I'm against is a gov't agency forcing everyone to get the set boxes. Then by licensing certain well connected companies creating a monopoly for these foreign companies.
What they should do is move on to digital if they have to but also provide either multivendor setup boxes for everyone. But creating a market for certain companies is not the work of gov't. It's that simple.
Otherwise we shall all be told to wear our hair like the North Koreans are being told and use only that barber on wazua who charges 5k per hair cut. Couldn't have put it any better. Would love to see that enforced. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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jaggernaut wrote:Gathige wrote:Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes! Baba was right that what we have is a "korti bandia". Only a korti bandia would make such a senseless ruling. How do you cancel the license of a company that competed against local media houses and won an open tender? Funny that I agree with the courts here. Assuming you need the set box to give free to air content. Then the conclusion should be that the set boxes should either automatically go with a tv licence or be considered as an electronic device like the tv and sold from any licenced trader. By giving one company the exclusive right to sell the set boxes, CCK illegally took away the licenses of the current broadcasters by creating a barrier to their ability to air their content. Good ruling in my opinion. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Gathige wrote:Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes! Baba was right that what we have is a "korti bandia". Only a korti bandia would make such a senseless ruling. How do you cancel the license of a company that competed against local media houses and won an open tender? Funny that I agree with the courts here. Assuming you need the set box to give free to air content. Then the conclusion should be that the set boxes should either automatically go with a tv licence or be considered as an electronic device like the tv and sold from any licenced trader. By giving one company the exclusive right to sell the set boxes, CCK illegally took away the licenses of the current broadcasters by creating a barrier to their ability to air their content. Good ruling in my opinion. No one gave star times exclusive rights to sell set top boxes. There are many other companies (about 50) selling different brands of free to air set top boxes out there in the market eg jolini, Next, samsutech etc. Even star times sells free to air set top boxes, but has a special pay as you watch box that has extra content (like go-tv). There are even digital ready TVs on the market that don't need the boxes. Why should star times be 'punished' for carrying out a good marketing campaign for it's products while the other 50 companies are asleep? And what happens to Signet that has also been carrying the digital signal? Is their license also canceled like for star times? Sep 30 will soon be here with us and we will still have to migrate, and there will be a last minute mad rush for the boxes. http://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/list-of-type-approved-dvb-t2-set-top-boxes-and-authorised-vendorshttp://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/what-s-digital-transition/signal-distributors
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Rankaz13 wrote:nakujua wrote:since cck has no mandate to give tenders, does that mean all the tenders they have given are void.
who dished out the mobile operator licenses, ama that is different. Since 2010 when the constitution came in to force. Copy and paste that section of the constitution hapa tusome.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/11/2007 Posts: 694
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"the ruling further set the stage for the disbandment of cck as it was not the independent body contemplated by the constitution"
what are the implications in relation to the other functions of cck.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/15/2009 Posts: 371
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.......From Jolini...... A number of orders were issued by the three judge bench and we would like to inform our customers the following: • Jolini set top boxes are universal free to air in nature and as such, they are capable of receiving all free to air TV channels irrespective the providers. • Signet will continue to provide/distribute digital TV signals and consequently, your viewership will not be affected at all. • The court ordered that Citizen, NTV and KTN be issued with the digital broadcast license. Once granted the license and begin their signal distribution, you will not need to buy another set top box since Jolini will receive the new signals – after a simple scan. We continue to offer you our support as you enjoy the digital TV platform using your Jolini decoder. Our shops/distributor outlets remain open. Jolini remains your preferred digital migration partner. Find the advantages of Digital migration from the link below. http://jolini.co.ke/migr...-and-enjoy-the-platform/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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[quote=Caveman].......From Jolini...... A number of orders were issued by the three judge bench and we would like to inform our customers the following: • Jolini set top boxes are universal free to air in nature and as such, they are capable of receiving all free to air TV channels irrespective the providers. • Signet will continue to provide/distribute digital TV signals and consequently, your viewership will not be affected at all. • The court ordered that Citizen, NTV and KTN be issued with the digital broadcast license. Once granted the license and begin their signal distribution, you will not need to buy another set top box since Jolini will receive the new signals – after a simple scan. We continue to offer you our support as you enjoy the digital TV platform using your Jolini decoder. Our shops/distributor outlets remain open. Jolini remains your preferred digital migration partner. Find the advantages of Digital migration from the link below. http://jolini.co.ke/migr...and-enjoy-the-platform/[/quote] What makes those 3 TV companies soooo special? Don't other Tv companies eg KBC, K24, Kiss, Family, EATV, Unjiri, Kass etc (and future companies) also deserve licenses? Why should the judiciary treat the 3 companies as more special than others?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Iko watu wana uchungu kweli. Kweli mumeambiwa mrudishe pesa? There is only one part of that ruling that you should listen to. The part where the CCK had no mandate to give out licenses. This reminds me of the other one of the land being sold to guys in South B by someone who had no mandate to sell it. So even corruption is digital. As to the issue of automatically giving a license to anybody, that is something that can be raised in a higher court. But not by CCK. Officially, they are non-existent unless they win at the higher court which is virtually impossible. That ruling was clear and concise. Good luck to jolini for taking care of the poor people like us. I wonder why the gov't was pushing those ones instead of cck seemingly in love with these foreign companies. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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jaggernaut wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Gathige wrote:Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes! Baba was right that what we have is a "korti bandia". Only a korti bandia would make such a senseless ruling. How do you cancel the license of a company that competed against local media houses and won an open tender? Funny that I agree with the courts here. Assuming you need the set box to give free to air content. Then the conclusion should be that the set boxes should either automatically go with a tv licence or be considered as an electronic device like the tv and sold from any licenced trader. By giving one company the exclusive right to sell the set boxes, CCK illegally took away the licenses of the current broadcasters by creating a barrier to their ability to air their content. Good ruling in my opinion. No one gave star times exclusive rights to sell set top boxes. There are many other companies (about 50) selling different brands of free to air set top boxes out there in the market eg jolini, Next, samsutech etc. Even star times sells free to air set top boxes, but has a special pay as you watch box that has extra content (like go-tv). There are even digital ready TVs on the market that don't need the boxes. Why should star times be 'punished' for carrying out a good marketing campaign for it's products while the other 50 companies are asleep? And what happens to Signet that has also been carrying the digital signal? Is their license also canceled like for star times? Sep 30 will soon be here with us and we will still have to migrate, and there will be a last minute mad rush for the boxes. http://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/list-of-type-approved-dvb-t2-set-top-boxes-and-authorised-vendorshttp://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/what-s-digital-transition/signal-distributors So I am not in the loop, on what is supposed to be the issue here, so its not the set top converter but the right to broadcast TV content digitally, that makes it even worse, coz the what that means is that Star times were given the exclusive rights to broadcast TV content in Kenya  Sounds like a con job done on the investors who have spent money building their media houses, you are suddenly told that TV content can only be aired digitally come tomorrow and the licence to air that digital content is given to someone else and not to you. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Gathige wrote:Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes! Baba was right that what we have is a "korti bandia". Only a korti bandia would make such a senseless ruling. How do you cancel the license of a company that competed against local media houses and won an open tender? Funny that I agree with the courts here. Assuming you need the set box to give free to air content. Then the conclusion should be that the set boxes should either automatically go with a tv licence or be considered as an electronic device like the tv and sold from any licenced trader. By giving one company the exclusive right to sell the set boxes, CCK illegally took away the licenses of the current broadcasters by creating a barrier to their ability to air their content. Good ruling in my opinion. No one gave star times exclusive rights to sell set top boxes. There are many other companies (about 50) selling different brands of free to air set top boxes out there in the market eg jolini, Next, samsutech etc. Even star times sells free to air set top boxes, but has a special pay as you watch box that has extra content (like go-tv). There are even digital ready TVs on the market that don't need the boxes. Why should star times be 'punished' for carrying out a good marketing campaign for it's products while the other 50 companies are asleep? And what happens to Signet that has also been carrying the digital signal? Is their license also canceled like for star times? Sep 30 will soon be here with us and we will still have to migrate, and there will be a last minute mad rush for the boxes. http://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/list-of-type-approved-dvb-t2-set-top-boxes-and-authorised-vendorshttp://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/what-s-digital-transition/signal-distributors So I am not in the loop, on what is supposed to be the issue here, so its not the set top converter but the right to broadcast TV content digitally, that makes it even worse, coz the what that means is that Star times were given the exclusive rights to broadcast TV content in Kenya Sounds like a con job done on the investors who have spent money building their media houses, you are suddenly told that TV content can only be aired digitally come tomorrow and the licence to air that digital content is given to someone else and not to you. signet
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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nakujua wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Gathige wrote:Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes! Baba was right that what we have is a "korti bandia". Only a korti bandia would make such a senseless ruling. How do you cancel the license of a company that competed against local media houses and won an open tender? Funny that I agree with the courts here. Assuming you need the set box to give free to air content. Then the conclusion should be that the set boxes should either automatically go with a tv licence or be considered as an electronic device like the tv and sold from any licenced trader. By giving one company the exclusive right to sell the set boxes, CCK illegally took away the licenses of the current broadcasters by creating a barrier to their ability to air their content. Good ruling in my opinion. No one gave star times exclusive rights to sell set top boxes. There are many other companies (about 50) selling different brands of free to air set top boxes out there in the market eg jolini, Next, samsutech etc. Even star times sells free to air set top boxes, but has a special pay as you watch box that has extra content (like go-tv). There are even digital ready TVs on the market that don't need the boxes. Why should star times be 'punished' for carrying out a good marketing campaign for it's products while the other 50 companies are asleep? And what happens to Signet that has also been carrying the digital signal? Is their license also canceled like for star times? Sep 30 will soon be here with us and we will still have to migrate, and there will be a last minute mad rush for the boxes. http://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/list-of-type-approved-dvb-t2-set-top-boxes-and-authorised-vendorshttp://www.digitalkenya.go.ke/what-s-digital-transition/signal-distributors So I am not in the loop, on what is supposed to be the issue here, so its not the set top converter but the right to broadcast TV content digitally, that makes it even worse, coz the what that means is that Star times were given the exclusive rights to broadcast TV content in Kenya Sounds like a con job done on the investors who have spent money building their media houses, you are suddenly told that TV content can only be aired digitally come tomorrow and the licence to air that digital content is given to someone else and not to you. Signet KBC subsidiary = gov't controlled, which means the media houses still have to pay for their digital content to be aired. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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jaggernaut wrote:[quote=Caveman].......From Jolini...... A number of orders were issued by the three judge bench and we would like to inform our customers the following: • Jolini set top boxes are universal free to air in nature and as such, they are capable of receiving all free to air TV channels irrespective the providers. • Signet will continue to provide/distribute digital TV signals and consequently, your viewership will not be affected at all. • The court ordered that Citizen, NTV and KTN be issued with the digital broadcast license. Once granted the license and begin their signal distribution, you will not need to buy another set top box since Jolini will receive the new signals – after a simple scan. We continue to offer you our support as you enjoy the digital TV platform using your Jolini decoder. Our shops/distributor outlets remain open. Jolini remains your preferred digital migration partner. Find the advantages of Digital migration from the link below. http://jolini.co.ke/migr...and-enjoy-the-platform/[/quote] What makes those 3 TV companies soooo special? Don't other Tv companies eg KBC, K24, Kiss, Family, EATV, Unjiri, Kass etc (and future companies) also deserve licenses? Why should the judiciary treat the 3 companies as more special than others? The 3 TV stations were the ones who had initiated the court case. If startimes license is cancelled, does it mean they will be off-air?
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Government to move to Supreme court to challenge the decision of the court of appeal on digital Migration If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:Government to move to Supreme court to challenge the decision of the court of appeal on digital Migration they better. wonder if the supreme court would have jurisdiction though. find it strange the way an appellant court could give such final orders. and the granting of the license to the media houses (here the court of appeal became the tender committee) is kind of similar to the way econet seemingly got their in their home country.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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And now startime decoders cannot recieve citizen and ntv: even from signet. Where is the consumers federation? I care!
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mkenyan wrote:Swenani wrote:Government to move to Supreme court to challenge the decision of the court of appeal on digital Migration they better. wonder if the supreme court would have jurisdiction though. find it strange the way an appellant court could give such final orders. and the granting of the license to the media houses (here the court of appeal became the tender committee) is kind of similar to the way econet seemingly got their in their home country. Appellate decision was on point. The media houses were already transmitting using analogue. Change of technology doesn't cancel their transmission license. Their analogue transmission licenses should have just simply been converted from analogue to digital.
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