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Tumetoka analogue sasa tuko Digital!!!
thuks
#261 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 8:45:01 PM
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washiku wrote:
And behold, the ruling comes, finally.


And the media won?
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kollabo
#262 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 9:23:50 PM
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Either way, its still very tricky for NTV, KTN & Cord TV. Not too sure if consumers will want to buy an NTV set top box.
thuks
#263 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 9:48:37 PM
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Did i hear that startimes licence was cancelled? what happens to the "innocent" customers of startimes in such a case?
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#264 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 10:56:41 PM
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kollabo wrote:
Either way, its still very tricky for NTV, KTN & Cord TV. Not too sure if consumers will want to buy an NTV set top box.

I dont think this will mean buying other sandukus. Just that we have one additional supplier of platform from the trio's consortium
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#265 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:09:16 AM
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This is a lesson to the Jubilee and future governments: the media in Kenya is a powerful and determined force, accept that and deal with them at that level.
Pedes
#266 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:48:17 AM
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jaggernaut
#267 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:29:09 AM
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The ruling, which will allow Kenyans more time to install set-top boxes on their analogue TV sets, was part of a landmark verdict that blocked pay television stations, such as South Africa’s DStv and Zuku, from rebroadcasting local channels without permission.


Does this mean that we will no longer be able to view local channels on DSTV?
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#268 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:34:14 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
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The ruling, which will allow Kenyans more time to install set-top boxes on their analogue TV sets, was part of a landmark verdict that blocked pay television stations, such as South Africa’s DStv and Zuku, from rebroadcasting local channels without permission.


Does this mean that we will no longer be able to view local channels on DSTV?

The key word is "WITHOUT PERMISSION".
DSTv is permitted, i think, but GoTv and StarTimes, am not sure.
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jaggernaut
#269 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:36:28 AM
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Star times should appeal/sue for damages. They beat the local TV stations in an open tender and the judges have now canceled their license.

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The judgment was a setback to viewers who had acquired digital set-top boxes from Star Times as the Bench unanimously cancelled the digital broadcast licence issued to them.

“Having found that the CCK was not the right body contemplated under the Constitution to issue the digital licences, we declare that the licence issued to Pan African Network Group is null and void and cancel it forthwith,” ruled the judges.

To save the company from loss, the judges ordered the CCK to refund it all the money it had invested, including the licence application fees it had paid.
alma
#270 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:42:52 AM
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Now I can say I told you so. The problem of getting old guard to understand what they voted yes to.

My only concern with the judgement is the moral like ruling giving the 3 local companies the right to a digital license simply because they have invested a lot of money. That one.....apana.

But this issue of forcing technology on people is unconstitutional and wrong. Now for the guys who bought these setboxes, shauri yenu.

They should also sue the gov't for allowing an illegality in their midst. But they won't. Accept and move on they will say.

First Konza, now digital migration. These were the real Ndemo years.
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Pedes
#271 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:43:55 AM
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thuks wrote:
Did i hear that startimes licence was cancelled? what happens to the "innocent" customers of startimes in such a case?



GTV all over again Or they'll appeal.
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jaggernaut
#272 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:50:40 AM
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To save the company from loss, the judges ordered the CCK to refund it all the money it had invested, including the licence application fees it had paid.


Does this include the billions Star times has invested in the business?
Kratos
#273 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:55:12 AM
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The Clown wrote:
This is a lesson to the Jubilee and future governments: the media in Kenya is a powerful and determined force, accept that and deal with them at that level.



How do they come in? Ama its kawaida bashing bila facts?

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#274 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:19:49 AM
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alma wrote:
Now I can say I told you so. The problem of getting old guard to understand what they voted yes to.

My only concern with the judgement is the moral like ruling giving the 3 local companies the right to a digital license simply because they have invested a lot of money. That one.....apana.

But this issue of forcing technology on people is unconstitutional and wrong. Now for the guys who bought these setboxes, shauri yenu.

They should also sue the gov't for allowing an illegality in their midst. But they won't. Accept and move on they will say.

First Konza, now digital migration. These were the real Ndemo years.

There is no problem with the set top boxes IMHO, they will still be needed even if the consortium was the sole provider of frequencies

Not unless the star times one can only work with certain providers, which would be strange

See, the sanduku allows you to view from different providers, now we have the third provider

Or am I missing something? Where's that wazuan who sells Yaojin boxes? Is it @Coolio?
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alma
#275 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:16:09 PM
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I agree with above.

What I'm against is a gov't agency forcing everyone to get the set boxes. Then by licensing certain well connected companies creating a monopoly for these foreign companies.

What they should do is move on to digital if they have to but also provide either multivendor setup boxes for everyone. But creating a market for certain companies is not the work of gov't. It's that simple.

Otherwise we shall all be told to wear our hair like the North Koreans are being told and use only that barber on wazua who charges 5k per hair cut.
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thuks
#276 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:37:47 PM
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Pedes wrote:
thuks wrote:
Did i hear that startimes licence was cancelled? what happens to the "innocent" customers of startimes in such a case?



GTV all over again Or they'll appeal.


if the judges argument were to be flipped, as long as you have invested, you need not compete. startimes are therefore entitled to the license because they have invested in the industry
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Gathige
#277 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:51:37 PM
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Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes!
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#278 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:32:02 PM
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These stations should not be concerned with decoders any company can provide eg Access Kenya Safcom Airtel etc. Technology changes with time and these decoders will have to be changed too. What the likes of Nations Standard etc should be working on is creating content. Just like the way we have BBC news, BBC travel, BBC documentaries, BBC Nature, BBC Drama etc. The production department should be gearing up to create worthy content not just broadcasting. Interesting times ahead.
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jaggernaut
#279 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:59:36 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes!

Baba was right that what we have is a "korti bandia". Only a korti bandia would make such a senseless ruling. How do you cancel the license of a company that competed against local media houses and won an open tender?
githundi
#280 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:53:49 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Next week in Nbi streets- Mia mia bei ya Jioni, Decoda ya Startimes!

Baba was right that what we have is a "korti bandia". Only a korti bandia would make such a senseless ruling. How do you cancel the license of a company that competed against local media houses and won an open tender?

I was thinking along the same line.
Am seeing a situation where the judges are over reaching themselves. They can't be the judiciary and the executive by themselves.
It's is a disease, we have with the three arms of the government, each want to carry the roles of the other arms,
I think one way or another, something will have to give way.
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