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Breaking News: Two dead in Likoni Gun attack
Swenani
#251 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:53:44 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Terrorists and criminals are shit, should be eliminated from the face of the earth. How come it is the only religion that advocates for violence.

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
mawinder
#252 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:15:46 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Islam and muslims are shit, should be eliminated from the face of the earth. How come it is the only religion that advocates for violence.

Ditto!!!!@Alphakaburi should be also tamed and sent to the so called virgins.
McReggae
#253 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:20:50 AM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Makaburi and Alphadoti are basically saying the same thing..

Makaburi says the attack on westgate was justified because of KDF in somalia..

Alphadoti says he does not know makaburi then shows us pictures of maimed children maybe to counter the picture of the Kenyan boy with a bullet wound to the head.. in essence what alphadoti is saying in many words is this... if 'GB' killed innocent children in Iraq terrorist activity in Kenya is justifiable... an eye for an eye ? have i missed anything alphadoti?

In a nutshell.. the fact that 'real muslims' the peaceful ones are not out in force to distance themselves from the words of makaburi speaks volumes.

So is makaburi a 'real muslim' @ Alphadoti?... aah i forget.. you dont know him..

So which is the real islam? The makaburi version is similar to the Alphadoti version.

Im beginning to think the makaburi alphadoti version of Islam is the real one.. i.e it is ok for innocent people to be killed in far flung likoni because 'GB' attacked iraq or because KDF is in somalia.

If this is not the case, why arent we seeing islamic leaders outraged by the words of makaburi ?

Where are these 'peaceful' muslims?

Do they exist?



@Mtubiz, you capture it so well!!!Applause Applause Applause
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
mkenyan
#254 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:33:29 AM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Makaburi and Alphadoti are basically saying the same thing..

Makaburi says the attack on westgate was justified because of KDF in somalia..

Alphadoti says he does not know makaburi then shows us pictures of maimed children maybe to counter the picture of the Kenyan boy with a bullet wound to the head.. in essence what alphadoti is saying in many words is this... if 'GB' killed innocent children in Iraq terrorist activity in Kenya is justifiable... an eye for an eye ? have i missed anything alphadoti?

In a nutshell.. the fact that 'real muslims' the peaceful ones are not out in force to distance themselves from the words of makaburi speaks volumes.

So is makaburi a 'real muslim' @ Alphadoti?... aah i forget.. you dont know him..

So which is the real islam? The makaburi version is similar to the Alphadoti version.

Im beginning to think the makaburi alphadoti version of Islam is the real one.. i.e it is ok for innocent people to be killed in far flung likoni because 'GB' attacked iraq or because KDF is in somalia.

If this is not the case, why arent we seeing islamic leaders outraged by the words of makaburi ?


Where are these 'peaceful' muslims?

Do they exist?


all my muslim friends are outraged by the likoni issue and by the muslims who do stuff like that in the name of islam. they unfortunately not publicity hogs, leaders or activists so you will not see them hold press conferences or demonstrating against it. you should not confuse muslim leaders with muslims. otherwise we could say that all kenyans are corrupt and prone to making stupid statements because our leaders are like that.
Atalaku
#255 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:35:27 AM
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mawinder wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Islam and muslims are shit, should be eliminated from the face of the earth. How come it is the only religion that advocates for violence.

Ditto!!!!@Alphakaburi should be also tamed and sent to the so called virgins.

.Pray
Muriel
#256 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:56:15 AM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Makaburi and Alphadoti are basically saying the same thing..

Makaburi says the attack on westgate was justified because of KDF in somalia..

Alphadoti says he does not know makaburi then shows us pictures of maimed children maybe to counter the picture of the Kenyan boy with a bullet wound to the head.. in essence what alphadoti is saying in many words is this... if 'GB' killed innocent children in Iraq terrorist activity in Kenya is justifiable... an eye for an eye ? have i missed anything alphadoti?

In a nutshell.. the fact that 'real muslims' the peaceful ones are not out in force to distance themselves from the words of makaburi speaks volumes.

So is makaburi a 'real muslim' @ Alphadoti?... aah i forget.. you dont know him..

So which is the real islam? The makaburi version is similar to the Alphadoti version.

Im beginning to think the makaburi alphadoti version of Islam is the real one.. i.e it is ok for innocent people to be killed in far flung likoni because 'GB' attacked iraq or because KDF is in somalia.

If this is not the case, why arent we seeing islamic leaders outraged by the words of makaburi ?

Where are these 'peaceful' muslims?

Do they exist?




Islam was birthed with the physical destruction then prohibition of christianity in the middle east. The 1st so called caliphate. Woe.

Then Islam went on to destroy the Eastern 'christian' empire. The so called 2nd caliphate. Woe.

An angel presided called Abaddon, Apollyon. Adversary. Who obscures the Sun of Righteousness. Since till today.

I am not speaking my own things. It was revealed. Sola scriptura. I believe it.


AlphDoti
#257 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:08:17 AM
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@Mtu_Biz, nothing I say will change your perception.

First, Muslim leaders hold meetings all the time, but the media choose not to report. Even if I give you exact dates, you'll turn around and say "Oh they were planning this or that, they were not upto no good".

Secondly, my friend, I already responded about Makaburi, but what did Wazuans do? They span it around.

Thirdly, I have already stated and been consistent in my responses that as far as terrorism is concerned, it is wrong 1001x and it should be fought, in the right manner! But to kill people like dogs on mere suspicion, yet when they were arrested they were released without charges because there were no concrete evidence is very, very wrong.

Fourthly, when I condemn other injustices that are always being done to other people in other parts of the world, does not mean I'm supporting what happens locally. This habit of turning a blind eye is worse. We should never say it is not our people. You actually celebrate when we heard of the use of drones in Somalia. I wonder how many civilians are killed after this attacks by using these drones? And the attacks all those years? We know these KDF are not following all rules of engagement. Before anyone cries oh, this oh that, please remember even the US were guilty of war crimes on Iraq. We know there is a problem the rules of engagement. It is disturbing to think of what the soldiers could be doing to many innocent girls and women.

Somebody said that wars these days have become like video game! Like scoring high scores by killing people.

There are so many errors made by these forces.
And they don't show these attacks on TV. They just wait until the attacked people retaliate the killing of their innocent so that they can show that reaction on TV.
Mtu Biz
#258 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:38:52 AM
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mkenyan wrote:

all my muslim friends are outraged by the likoni issue and by the muslims who do stuff like that in the name of islam. they unfortunately not publicity hogs, leaders or activists so you will not see them hold press conferences or demonstrating against it. you should not confuse muslim leaders with muslims. otherwise we could say that all kenyans are corrupt and prone to making stupid statements because our leaders are like that.


I assume you are not a muslim yourself ?

Are they as outraged by makaburis words as well ?

All muslims we know in wazua have spoken in one voice so far.
Sola Scriptura


McReggae
#259 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:44:39 AM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
mkenyan wrote:

all my muslim friends are outraged by the likoni issue and by the muslims who do stuff like that in the name of islam. they unfortunately not publicity hogs, leaders or activists so you will not see them hold press conferences or demonstrating against it. you should not confuse muslim leaders with muslims. otherwise we could say that all kenyans are corrupt and prone to making stupid statements because our leaders are like that.


I assume you are not a muslim yourself ?

Are they as outraged by makaburis words as well ?

All muslims we know in wazua have spoken in one voice so far.


Ditto!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Um Sayala
#260 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:19:54 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:



all my muslim friends are outraged by the likoni issue and by the muslims who do stuff like that in the name of islam. they unfortunately not publicity hogs, leaders or activists so you will not see them hold press conferences or demonstrating against it. you should not confuse muslim leaders with muslims. otherwise we could say that all kenyans are corrupt and prone to making stupid statements because our leaders are like that.

What leaders say represents the views of most of them, and the few outside that group are too afraid to come out and hold a press conference to denounce the leaders' views.
Muslims, even your friends, hold two views on this issue, one ya PR and the other ni ya kusupport their leaders.
"Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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