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mpobiz
#21 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:26:34 AM
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guru267 wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
what does Islam teach about the signs that we should expect to see to "warn" us about the coming of the judgement day?


1. Earthquakes
2. Fall of the second caliphate
3. Jerusalem will be divided
4. There will be crazy love for anything alcohol
5. Syria must be in ruins
6. Rampant fornication and adultery
7. Usury (Interest rate on debt)
8. The return of the Messiah to kill the antichrist
9. The Fall of the age of tyranny
10. Plenty of Rags to riches stories (Qur'an: The slave will give birth to her mistress)
11. Rome will fall
12. Christians will flock to Islam
13. etc etc


@guru which sura or aya talks about the "flocking of Christians into Islam"


I dont think its in the Qur'an but rather a teaching of the prophet Muhammad(saw).

He teaches that when Jesus (as) comes back he will educate the Christians that he is not God, he did not die on a cross and hates pork and it will be this that will cause the flocking to Islam!

And does it say where has Jesus been for all this years?
For someone to come back from the dead after 2000 years however he died , on a cross or through a freak donkey accident.. how do you explain that.
Now that even the prophet acknowledges that. I now renew my call for repentance.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Muriel
#22 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:36:14 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
There is also mention of a 'seal of God in their foreheads'.


I am more interested in knowing how the righteous get God's seal on their foreheads.

Because I want one.I wish the author of that article could explain that to me.


Kindly observe the foreheads of every practising MUSLIM and then join the party because the Hour is near!


Ah, but Guru, salvation can be distilled into a matter of tatoos?



What tattoos are you talking about??

The marks on our forehead come from prostrating to the God Almighty!!!

If that is not a seal I dont know what is...


Yes, maybe you don't know what it is, after all. Keeping your options open about it is wise of you.

If I can prostate myself on the ground, and get, perchance, some mark on my head the deal is done?

If I do it on some (soft) carpet or gently so that no visible mark is hence retained ni kazi bure tu?
guru267
#23 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:38:49 AM
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mpobiz wrote:

And does it say where has Jesus been for all this years?
For someone to come back from the dead after 2000 years however he died , on a cross or through a freak donkey accident.. how do you explain that.
Now that even the prophet acknowledges that. I now renew my call for repentance.


In Islam we believe that the reason for the imminent death of Jesus (as) was because of what he preached and not for the purpose of saving anyone's sins...

So we believe that when he asked God to save him from death in the garden of Gethsemane, God raised him up to heaven and placed his image on another man who died in his place! Hebrews 5:7

So we basically believe Jesus (as) is alive in heaven waiting to return to earth and save us from the Antichrist!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#24 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:43:54 AM
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Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
There is also mention of a 'seal of God in their foreheads'.


I am more interested in knowing how the righteous get God's seal on their foreheads.

Because I want one.I wish the author of that article could explain that to me.


Kindly observe the foreheads of every practising MUSLIM and then join the party because the Hour is near!


Ah, but Guru, salvation can be distilled into a matter of tatoos?



What tattoos are you talking about??

The marks on our forehead come from prostrating to the God Almighty!!!

If that is not a seal I dont know what is...


Yes, maybe you don't know what it is, after all. Keeping your options open about it is wise of you.

If I can prostate myself on the ground, and get, perchance, some mark on my head the deal is done?

If I do it on some (soft) carpet or gently so that no visible mark is hence retained ni kazi bure tu?


If one prostrates 34 times a day for their whole life as practicing Muslims do I highly doubt there will be no mark at all!

God knows all that is in our hearts so hypocrites will still be spat into the Hellfire!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Tokyo
#25 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:45:45 AM
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Muriel
#26 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 11:12:42 AM
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Posts: 3,142
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
There is also mention of a 'seal of God in their foreheads'.


I am more interested in knowing how the righteous get God's seal on their foreheads.

Because I want one.I wish the author of that article could explain that to me.


Kindly observe the foreheads of every practising MUSLIM and then join the party because the Hour is near!


Ah, but Guru, salvation can be distilled into a matter of tatoos?



What tattoos are you talking about??

The marks on our forehead come from prostrating to the God Almighty!!!

If that is not a seal I dont know what is...


Yes, maybe you don't know what it is, after all. Keeping your options open about it is wise of you.

If I can prostate myself on the ground, and get, perchance, some mark on my head the deal is done?

If I do it on some (soft) carpet or gently so that no visible mark is hence retained ni kazi bure tu?


If one prostrates 34 times a day for their whole life as practicing Muslims do I highly doubt there will be no mark at all!

God knows all that is in our hearts so hypocrites will still be spat into the Hellfire!


That's my point, Guru - Better get some mark or else!! Only outward forms and rituals of worship are of importance.

You are turning and twisting just so as to not to agree with me that forehead means seat of cognitive thoughts. Yet you in so many words, you say that god knows all that is in our hearts so hypocrites will still be spat out, implying that pretenders - those who have 'decided' to palm off appeareances- will avail nought.

Just agree that thoughts, decisions play a role in salvation.

mpobiz
#27 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 11:17:52 AM
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Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,265
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
There is also mention of a 'seal of God in their foreheads'.


I am more interested in knowing how the righteous get God's seal on their foreheads.

Because I want one.I wish the author of that article could explain that to me.


Kindly observe the foreheads of every practising MUSLIM and then join the party because the Hour is near!


Ah, but Guru, salvation can be distilled into a matter of tatoos?



What tattoos are you talking about??

The marks on our forehead come from prostrating to the God Almighty!!!

If that is not a seal I dont know what is...


Yes, maybe you don't know what it is, after all. Keeping your options open about it is wise of you.

If I can prostate myself on the ground, and get, perchance, some mark on my head the deal is done?

If I do it on some (soft) carpet or gently so that no visible mark is hence retained ni kazi bure tu?


If one prostrates 34 times a day for their whole life as practicing Muslims do I highly doubt there will be no mark at all!

God knows all that is in our hearts so hypocrites will still be spat into the Hellfire!

Applause Applause Applause
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Mtu Biz
#28 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 11:29:37 AM
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Joined: 1/16/2007
Posts: 1,320
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
There is also mention of a 'seal of God in their foreheads'.


I am more interested in knowing how the righteous get God's seal on their foreheads.

Because I want one.I wish the author of that article could explain that to me.


Kindly observe the foreheads of every practising MUSLIM and then join the party because the Hour is near!


Ah, but Guru, salvation can be distilled into a matter of tatoos?



What tattoos are you talking about??

The marks on our forehead come from prostrating to the God Almighty!!!

If that is not a seal I dont know what is...


Yes, maybe you don't know what it is, after all. Keeping your options open about it is wise of you.

If I can prostate myself on the ground, and get, perchance, some mark on my head the deal is done?

If I do it on some (soft) carpet or gently so that no visible mark is hence retained ni kazi bure tu?


If one prostrates 34 times a day for their whole life as practicing Muslims do I highly doubt there will be no mark at all!

God knows all that is in our hearts so hypocrites will still be spat into the Hellfire!


You need to make up your mind already.. is the rawed out forehead as a result of frequent prostrating the mark of righteousness or is it God's knowledge of the posture of your heart ?


Sola Scriptura


guru267
#29 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 11:40:45 AM
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Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
Mtu Biz wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
There is also mention of a 'seal of God in their foreheads'.


I am more interested in knowing how the righteous get God's seal on their foreheads.

Because I want one.I wish the author of that article could explain that to me.


Kindly observe the foreheads of every practising MUSLIM and then join the party because the Hour is near!


Ah, but Guru, salvation can be distilled into a matter of tatoos?



What tattoos are you talking about??

The marks on our forehead come from prostrating to the God Almighty!!!

If that is not a seal I dont know what is...


Yes, maybe you don't know what it is, after all. Keeping your options open about it is wise of you.

If I can prostate myself on the ground, and get, perchance, some mark on my head the deal is done?

If I do it on some (soft) carpet or gently so that no visible mark is hence retained ni kazi bure tu?


If one prostrates 34 times a day for their whole life as practicing Muslims do I highly doubt there will be no mark at all!

God knows all that is in our hearts so hypocrites will still be spat into the Hellfire!


You need to make up your mind already.. is the rawed out forehead as a result of frequent prostrating the mark of righteousness or is it God's knowledge of the posture of your heart ?


Both!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#30 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 11:43:47 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
guru267 wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
There is also mention of a 'seal of God in their foreheads'.


I am more interested in knowing how the righteous get God's seal on their foreheads.

Because I want one.I wish the author of that article could explain that to me.


Kindly observe the foreheads of every practising MUSLIM and then join the party because the Hour is near!


Ah, but Guru, salvation can be distilled into a matter of tatoos?



What tattoos are you talking about??

The marks on our forehead come from prostrating to the God Almighty!!!

If that is not a seal I dont know what is...


Yes, maybe you don't know what it is, after all. Keeping your options open about it is wise of you.

If I can prostate myself on the ground, and get, perchance, some mark on my head the deal is done?

If I do it on some (soft) carpet or gently so that no visible mark is hence retained ni kazi bure tu?


If one prostrates 34 times a day for their whole life as practicing Muslims do I highly doubt there will be no mark at all!

God knows all that is in our hearts so hypocrites will still be spat into the Hellfire!


You need to make up your mind already.. is the rawed out forehead as a result of frequent prostrating the mark of righteousness or is it God's knowledge of the posture of your heart ?


Both!


Wewe ni kama Tycho. lol.
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