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Breaking News: Two dead in Likoni Gun attack
ZZE123
#41 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 9:55:04 AM
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The government should vet more citizens and give them guns – like police reservists!
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
alma
#42 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:20:38 AM
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ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
So what will attacking mosques achieve... Islamophobia is reaching new levels is being driven by these terrorists!

I think the last thing we should want is the moderates to get involved in this...


What is lacking from the Muslim leadership locally is a clear, firm, unconditional condemnation of these criminal acts committed in the name of their religion.

In this gap, you then watch news features of 'Sheiks' openly supporting or sympathizing with terrorists.

I agree, high handed police tactics, profiling etc do seem to target muslims but let us face it, these criminals have a common denominator for religion.

It is very very very very important the local muslim leadership is not seen to be sympathetic to criminal acts.


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Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
kollabo
#43 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:26:01 AM
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Makaburi is so free out there. He shouts whatsoever he wants. Lets admit it. Kenya's Islamic political and civil society caucus is that powerful. Islamic rights now take precedence over your human rights.
nakujua
#44 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:28:39 AM
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Kenya is not a christian country - and the few Christians are not that emotional about owning their religion, so attacking churches will never fuel or ignite christian against islam tensions.
I am sure if they did the same to the hindu temples they would receive a harsh reaction.
josimar
#45 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:30:18 AM
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Fact is that N.E, Coast Province and Nairobi are no longer safe areas, I wonder why it is so difficult to see police patrols intensified on Fridays(when muslims go for prayers) and Sundays( now that they target churches) . There is some laxity and assumption out there.
callaspade
#46 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:32:55 AM
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......Kenya needs to adopt tougher anti-terror laws, makaburi et al talking trash should be rotting in kodiaga.
...but matters security here must be addressed,when i see someone on tv saying we are increasing patrols,we are gathering intelligence,we are more vigilant bla bla bla.....thats Kenyan police for you with zero achievement,no one is ever held responsible,no one is sacked,heads never roll,all excuses and blame games start.

....Kenya needs to treat Somalia like the Us does to Mexico.....border patrol and everyone should be a suspect,hate it or like it ,but its time to have illegal aliens rounded up and shipped out.
...did you notice how many illegal aliens were arrested immediately after westgate? ,...then it all went back to business as usual.

..ask yourself,how easy is it to acquire a gun in Kenya if all thugs have them? where is the intelligence ? how is it possible to smuggle them day in day out?
no arrests,no prevention,just reacting to problems ,someone tell it to the duo that honeymoon time is over,we need action
Robinhood
#47 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:36:19 AM
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alma wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
So what will attacking mosques achieve... Islamophobia is reaching new levels is being driven by these terrorists!

I think the last thing we should want is the moderates to get involved in this...


What is lacking from the Muslim leadership locally is a clear, firm, unconditional condemnation of these criminal acts committed in the name of their religion.

In this gap, you then watch news features of 'Sheiks' openly supporting or sympathizing with terrorists.

I agree, high handed police tactics, profiling etc do seem to target muslims but let us face it, these criminals have a common denominator for religion.

It is very very very very important the local muslim leadership is not seen to be sympathetic to criminal acts.


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When these thing happen, they issue feeble condemnations while hiding the terrorists amongst themselves. Then they, like @Alphdoti try to tell us why this is a complex problem they cannot solve and why cool heads should prevail. Once things cool down, they go back to their hating on Kaffirs. One day someone will need to wield the hammer till they realize that hiding terrorists among you has a cost. That day had better be soon, otherwise I fear Christians will tire of turning the other cheek
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
Pedes
#48 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:37:18 AM
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kollabo wrote:
Makaburi is so free out there. He shouts whatsoever he wants. Lets admit it. Kenya's Islamic political and civil society caucus is that powerful. Islamic rights now take precedence over your human rights.


Me thinks Makaburi is good for TV shows. The dangerous ones are quickly dispatched for they are the ones that are good at radicalization.
If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
Tokyo
#49 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:39:22 AM
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We have said it before and we shall continue " get the hell out of Somalia. ".
Kenya can't win against terrorists.
work to prosper
alma
#50 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:44:07 AM
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Be careful what you wish for.

Seeing a lot of hate here and its religious based.

You do realise that the guys doing this are using religion as a cover. Using chritianity as a cover also falls in the same umbrella.

You don't want a religious war. Of any shape of form. And it always begins with words. Be careful what you are saying.

The fact is, some fellows are running around killing people pretending they are following a religion.

Then some fellows are feeling that their religion is being attacked.

What I see are some criminals who need to be arrested pronto.

Asking the muslim sheikhs to say something on behalf of criminals is being religiously insincere. Did you ask my pastor to talk on behalf of Mungiki? The killers in Kiserian have killed more Kenyans than the guys in Likoni, did you ask the catholic priest in the area to comment about it?

While it is true that muslim leaders need to talk more about this pestilence, the question remains, do you have any evidence that they are saying otherwise? Have you gone to a mosque lately and heard them saying "I hope they continue shooting more christians"?

Or have you just heard one or two criminals talking about it and blanketed the whole community?

I have been on the other side of this shoe. I don't like it.

The results are just hate and more hate. Then when shit really happens, you all start praying that it stops. It never does.

So for me and my household, start religious undertones, religious comments, religious wars, and I move.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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