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Topic created by Impunity #12 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:24:49 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:Urban sprawl happens when people are forced to house themselves far from the city where they work. In developed countries such as USA, they have realised the negative effects and have come up with policy to prevent this.
In USA or Britain, lobby groups for the prevention of urban sprawl would keep pressure on govt to rezone agricultural lands within the city.
My take is that instead of emphasizing on the negative effects that the commissioner of lands engaged in land grabbing, which lawyer Paul Ndungu is also advocating, with a lynch mob behind, lets see the positive effects of such land grabbing to the benefit of the country.
In the USA, when govt rezones govt agricultural lands close to the city into private residentials, there are no lynch mobs shouting that land has been grabbed. Maybe in Kenya, if what the lands commissioner did was to be legalised and clear framework for how this should be done is laid out, more and more kenyans will stop to see it as grabbing and see it as re zoning for the benefit of the country. So you scour the internet to find the meaning of urban sprawl. The you try to equate urban sprawl to corruption? I have asked you again, can you please come up with any case study, case law, gov't policy anywhere in this whole world where land grabbing, corruption and conning citizens is adopted as gov't policy? Please take your time. I can see you like internet searching. You also want us to change the meaning of illegal acquisition of land to zoning? Even the corruption czars are seeing your posts and shaking their heads. So lets all start land grabbing so that we can prevent people living very far from where they work. So instead of the land grabbers here who are causing sleepless nights to hundreds of familes being taken to jail, let us pat them on the back and make them chair of the urban sprawl society of Kenya. Kweli you had shares in the original grabbers company? Someone stole land, someone must compensate these owners. It won't be from my tax pockets, it should be from the urban sprawl society of Kenya. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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@alma, you can suit yourself in whatever you want to believe. As i told you yesterday, i wont waste my time arguing with you since i dont see any value addition to this. @admin, its high time you set up the ignore button to enable us continue with sensible debates. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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a4architect.com wrote:@alma, you can suit yourself in whatever you want to believe. As i told you yesterday, i wont waste my time arguing with you since i dont see any value addition to this.
@admin, its high time you set up the ignore button to enable us continue with sensible debates. Wow the leader of urban sprawl is afraid of verification? Add on the ignore button, many have done it. But you will be first who will have amazed me. Lets all be land grabbers because we shall make beautiful houses is a new one in my book. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@admin, how soon can we get the ignore button? As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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a4architect.com wrote:@admin, how soon can we get the ignore button? Kweli you are finding it as hard as finding proper searches for your clients. Let me help you. Find my name on the right hand side. Click on it. You shall find my profile. Now find the ignore button right there. I on the other hand would never ignore your posts on wazua. But I have a feeling that ignoring your professional opinion is not a bad idea at all. I might find myself urban sprawling for a very long time. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@dunkang, thanks for saving the day. Here is how am seeing @alma's posts...  As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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haha and the urban sprawler has run just like that. haha Another one by alma. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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alma wrote:haha and the urban sprawler has run just like that. haha
Another one by alma. is it a contest or its about people discussing issues??
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jamplu wrote:alma wrote:haha and the urban sprawler has run just like that. haha
Another one by alma. is it a contest or its about people discussing issues?? Why don't you ask Mr. Urban Sprawler? Every argument he brought here we debunked. So he ran. Just as other urban sprawlers run after being caught. The issues were non-existent. The ideas were myopic. The goal was to make us see the good that corruption will do for this country. I'm sure you are now very satisfied that his professional practice is corruption free. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@alma, its not that am running away from you..am just avoiding taunting from a guy who could actually be my son. If you were physically near me, for sure i would have physically spanked you proper so that you can learn manners and know your place infront of men your dad's age. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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a4architect.com wrote:@alma, its not that am running away from you..am just avoiding taunting from a guy who could actually be my son. If you were physically near me, for sure i would have physically spanked you proper so that you can learn manners and know your place infront of men your dad's age. ok  sawa At least you aren't a boring guy. hehe. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@alma, now you know. When men your dad's age are discussing, look for the farthest corner and try to get busy..probably with crayons and a blank piece of paper. Otherwise when the slippers gets contact with you, you will only have your self to blame...ok? As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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a4architect.com wrote:@alma, now you know. When men your dad's age are discussing, look for the farthest corner and try to get busy..probably with crayons and a blank piece of paper. Otherwise when the slippers gets contact with you, you will only have your self to blame...ok? I'm honestly praying that your urban sprawling techniques are better than your matusis...Daddy. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Administration Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 679
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Dear Members,
@alma @a4architect venerable members of Wazua, had a very enlightening discussion on urban sprawl v/s corruption. It got a little heated.
We're glad the exchange did not degenerate but we will move extraneous comments here to keep the original thread pure.
The Wazua spirit
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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@admin hii ni ukoloni mambo leo There was nothing mean spirited about our argument with @a4. Again you are the ones insinuating improper motive. Land issues are heated. Doesn't mean anyone is wrong or hates the other. But as usual my posts always get moved to another thread for whatever reason. Na hii ni mazoea kwangu. Wewe impunity, tutapatana tu. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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wazua wrote:Dear Members,
@alma @a4architect venerable members of Wazua, had a very enlightening discussion on urban sprawl v/s corruption. It got a little heated.
We're glad the exchange did not degenerate but we will move extraneous comments here to keep the original thread pure.
The Wazua spirit
Yaani @madam you could not start your own thread and decided to edit mine just as I had predicted and then let it appear that @a4architecture is the starter of the thread? You are one very lazy lady.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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alma wrote:@admin hii ni ukoloni mambo leo
There was nothing mean spirited about our argument with @a4. Again you are the ones insinuating improper motive.
Land issues are heated. Doesn't mean anyone is wrong or hates the other. But as usual my posts always get moved to another thread for whatever reason.
Na hii ni mazoea kwangu.
Wewe impunity, tutapatana tu. I made her see this fight!  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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