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Home owners stare at Sh16bn losses
accelriskconsult
#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:09:43 AM
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wanyee wrote:
In the same South B, along Sore road and Plainsview road, on what i presume to be Railway land, flats have come up at a quick rate, a few years down the line Railways Corp will wake up and realize ..Oh land has been grabbed..those are properties za kuotea muoto mbali.



Kweli kabisa.

The guys buying houses there are investing in wind
mawinder
#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:28:32 AM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
wanyee wrote:
In the same South B, along Sore road and Plainsview road, on what i presume to be Railway land, flats have come up at a quick rate, a few years down the line Railways Corp will wake up and realize ..Oh land has been grabbed..those are properties za kuotea muoto mbali.



Kweli kabisa.

The guys buying houses there are investing in wind

Plainsview was originally meant to be railway housing.
a4architect.com
#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:59:24 AM
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The original owners of nairobi were the maasais to the south/kajiado, kambas to the east/syokimau/kangundo rd and kikuyus to the north west/kiambu/thika.muthaiga/karen/dagoreti. The colonial govt then appropriated the land to themselves then they allocated the land to settlers from Britain. These settlers then sold under the swinnerton plan in the 1950s and the little that remained govt land was appropriated by kenyatta, moi and kibaki govts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swynnerton_Plan

Ministry of agric has as much rights to the land as the original african tribal owners so they should be pliable to discussions and let the current owners live in peace.
As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
jamplu
#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:57:45 PM
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how much land belonging to kenyatta hospital and kenya railways found its way to private ownership?? if we are to start demolishing we would demolish almost half of nairobi. Previous govts failed to protect their land in some cases govt institutions are involved in these transactions so koskei awache vitisho its innocent kenyans who will end up incurring huge losses.
a4architect.com
#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:13:02 PM
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@jamplu..true..almost all upper hill land belonged to kenya railways but is now in the hands of embassies, international corporates and rich individuals. Before railways owned the land, it belonged to native kenyans.
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Jamani
#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:35:35 PM
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Going by arguments here, someone might built on your land and then say that we should be sensible not to demolish that property because of xyz.
wanyee
#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:27:26 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
The original owners of nairobi were the maasais to the south/kajiado, kambas to the east/syokimau/kangundo rd and kikuyus to the north west/kiambu/thika.muthaiga/karen/dagoreti. The colonial govt then appropriated the land to themselves then they allocated the land to settlers from Britain. These settlers then sold under the swinnerton plan in the 1950s and the little that remained govt land was appropriated by kenyatta, moi and kibaki govts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swynnerton_Plan

Ministry of agric has as much rights to the land as the original african tribal owners so they should be pliable to discussions and let the current owners live in peace.

How i wish the same logic was applied to Syokimau
a4architect.com
#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:33:42 PM
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the same should have applied to syokimau. The airport should have been relocated to konza.
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jamplu
#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:08:19 PM
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Jamani wrote:
Going by arguments here, someone might built on your land and then say that we should be sensible not to demolish that property because of xyz.


if am not wrong there's number of years that if you allowed a squatter on your land you can't easily evict them and they may assume ownership?? i think it falls under Adverse Possession ...
Jamani
#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:17:33 PM
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jamplu wrote:
Jamani wrote:
Going by arguments here, someone might built on your land and then say that we should be sensible not to demolish that property because of xyz.


if am not wrong there's number of years that if you allowed a squatter on your land you can't evict them and they would assume ownership?? i think it falls under Adverse Possession ...


I think it's after 12 years, now imagine you bought land went abroad for 5 years then came back and found someone has built on your plot.... If I go by arguments here it appears that you should relocate or leave the one that has built to stay put...just as someone is arguing that JKIA should have relocated to konza
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