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Swenani
#21 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 4:20:01 PM
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more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
jaggernaut
#22 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 6:37:11 PM
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Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?
Swenani
#23 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 6:52:32 PM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
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jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
jaggernaut
#24 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 7:24:10 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.
Mukiri
#25 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 8:33:13 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

Proverbs 19:21
jaggernaut
#26 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 10:26:20 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our careers/professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?
Mukiri
#27 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 10:50:30 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?

Now you are talking. You came blazing guns, looking down on a stripling youth, whom because of his choices will probably be more richer, healthier and happier than you, with your purported jet-set lifestyle.

If you think on broader terms, same Lupita can win Oscars from movies she makes herself. It's not about farming, its about entrepreneurship, whatever your calling is.

Proverbs 19:21
washiku
#28 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:00:49 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?

Now you are talking. You came blazing guns, looking down on a stripling youth, whom because of his choices will probably be more richer, healthier and happier than you, with your purported jet-set lifestyle.

If you think on broader terms, same Lupita can win Oscars from movies she makes herself. It's not about farming, its about entrepreneurship, whatever your calling is.


Applause Applause Applause Exactly.
jaggernaut
#29 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:10:18 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our careers/professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?

Now you are talking. You came blazing guns, looking down on a stripling youth, whom because of his choices will probably be more richer, healthier and happier than you, with your purported jet-set lifestyle.

If you think on broader terms, same Lupita can win Oscars from movies she makes herself. It's not about farming, its about entrepreneurship, whatever your calling is.

If the young man was enterprising enough and using his degree and training to advance himself and solve problems afflicting society, then i wouldn't have any problem with that. Chida is when he turns down job offers in his field of training and goes to the village to herd cattle.
washiku
#30 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:17:26 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?

Now you are talking. You came blazing guns, looking down on a stripling youth, whom because of his choices will probably be more richer, healthier and happier than you, with your purported jet-set lifestyle.

If you think on broader terms, same Lupita can win Oscars from movies she makes herself. It's not about farming, its about entrepreneurship, whatever your calling is.

If the young man was enterprising enough and using his degree and training to advance himself and solve problems afflicting society, then i wouldn't have any problem with that.


The largest problem facing Africa is food security. If you go through the story carefully, his farm is now being used for research/education in this critical area. Interestingly, he is doing it in an area that has been known of food shortage. Maybe he will proof that with a little bit of investment, no area of this country should suffer food shortage. About the CEO issue, I wonder how many of them are earning 16m. Majority have been employed to create and/further other people's dreams. Many leaves the dreams of their employers. As you rightly put it, kila nyani na starehe zake.
Mukiri
#31 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:22:13 PM
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And you reckon farming doesn't call for statistical knowledge?

Or is it that feeding a populace, providing jobs, educating people on better working farming methodologies, while making your father and larger community proud by doing something at home... is not 'advancing himself and solve problems afflicting society'?

Problem here is unadharau farming! I bet to you a farmer in dirty grab is a lower human being than a corporate in a designer suit, who answers 'Yes sir' to another. You'd be surprised the wealthy (not rich) are the same farmers you look down upon. Picture you a yoghurt's sales man for Lord Delamere on his tractor.

I'd rather be the house owner than the best well paid sweeper.

Proverbs 19:21
jaggernaut
#32 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:24:14 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
washiku wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?

Now you are talking. You came blazing guns, looking down on a stripling youth, whom because of his choices will probably be more richer, healthier and happier than you, with your purported jet-set lifestyle.

If you think on broader terms, same Lupita can win Oscars from movies she makes herself. It's not about farming, its about entrepreneurship, whatever your calling is.

If the young man was enterprising enough and using his degree and training to advance himself and solve problems afflicting society, then i wouldn't have any problem with that.


The largest problem facing Africa is food security. If you go through the story carefully, his farm is now being used for research/education in this critical area. Interestingly, he is doing it in an area that has been known of food shortage. Maybe he will proof that with a little bit of investment, no area of this country should suffer food shortage. About the CEO issue, I wonder how many of them are earning 16m. Majority have been employed to create and/further other people's dreams. Many leaves the dreams of their employers. As you rightly put it, kila nyani na starehe zake.

Then we should encourage all our newly graduated doctors , lawyers, engineers, accountants, architects, statisticians etc to go into farming to ensure food security......and they will live their dream and even earn more than CEOs .
Mukiri
#33 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:31:38 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
jaggernaut wrote:
washiku wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?

Now you are talking. You came blazing guns, looking down on a stripling youth, whom because of his choices will probably be more richer, healthier and happier than you, with your purported jet-set lifestyle.

If you think on broader terms, same Lupita can win Oscars from movies she makes herself. It's not about farming, its about entrepreneurship, whatever your calling is.

If the young man was enterprising enough and using his degree and training to advance himself and solve problems afflicting society, then i wouldn't have any problem with that.


The largest problem facing Africa is food security. If you go through the story carefully, his farm is now being used for research/education in this critical area. Interestingly, he is doing it in an area that has been known of food shortage. Maybe he will proof that with a little bit of investment, no area of this country should suffer food shortage. About the CEO issue, I wonder how many of them are earning 16m. Majority have been employed to create and/further other people's dreams. Many leaves the dreams of their employers. As you rightly put it, kila nyani na starehe zake.

Then we should encourage all our newly graduated doctors , lawyers, engineers, accountants, architects, statisticians etc to go into farming to ensure food security......and they will live their dream and even earn more than CEOs .

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Hapa iko chida! Let me write it in capital letters. IT IS NOT ABOUT FARMING, ITS ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP, WHATEVER YOUR CALLING IS.

Let the doctor start his own practise(And I pray for miti shamba, otherwise who'll build on what we already indigenously have?), a lawyer his practice(and hopefully brake away from long winding court cases that can be arbitrated at cheaper costs in lesser time) and the engineer come up with an original inovation etc

Proverbs 19:21
jaggernaut
#34 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:44:19 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
washiku wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
more wrote:
be your own boss and have peace

That's what Jaggernaut refers to "waste of brains"

If your son scored a first class honours and was offered a job by employers like Safaricom, Pricewaterhouse, EABL, central bank etc, would you advice him to turn them down (like the guy did), and go to kitui to farm cabbages, and rear cows, so that he can be his own boss?


Yes, If that's what he wants do to

In my case I'd advice him to take up that management trainee job and work hard to become the CEO/boss of the company in a few yrs time. And also tell him to pursue his passion of farming cabbages on weekends instead of spending sat and sun in phombe joints. Or hire a manager for the farming venture.

Slave mentality. Emancipate yourself boss.

Be employed by what/whom? A company/firm that came from heaven, the moon, mars? or a company that somebody else started... somebody with the same blood running through his veins; Why not encourage our youth to start these companies (and mark you Mumo's farm is a company in its own right), instead of prostrating themselves begging for jobs?

I think we are all made differently and have different aspirations. Whereas some of us would opt to pursue our professions in our organisations and work to rise to the top, others would be glad to go juakali and start machinani and earn a living from some cows and quails. Anyway at the end of the day what matters is the money. But if i were to chose between a jetset lifestyle as a top corporate executive and a farmer's life in kitui, then for me it's the former. I believe i can always grow cabbages anytime as a side hustle, and even in retirement. What if Lupita Nyongo had thrown away her degree in drama from Yale and gone to rear goats in Nyalgunga so as to be her own boss?

Now you are talking. You came blazing guns, looking down on a stripling youth, whom because of his choices will probably be more richer, healthier and happier than you, with your purported jet-set lifestyle.

If you think on broader terms, same Lupita can win Oscars from movies she makes herself. It's not about farming, its about entrepreneurship, whatever your calling is.

If the young man was enterprising enough and using his degree and training to advance himself and solve problems afflicting society, then i wouldn't have any problem with that.


The largest problem facing Africa is food security. If you go through the story carefully, his farm is now being used for research/education in this critical area. Interestingly, he is doing it in an area that has been known of food shortage. Maybe he will proof that with a little bit of investment, no area of this country should suffer food shortage. About the CEO issue, I wonder how many of them are earning 16m. Majority have been employed to create and/further other people's dreams. Many leaves the dreams of their employers. As you rightly put it, kila nyani na starehe zake.

Then we should encourage all our newly graduated doctors , lawyers, engineers, accountants, architects, statisticians etc to go into farming to ensure food security......and they will live their dream and even earn more than CEOs .

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Hapa iko chida! Let me write it in capital letters. IT IS NOT ABOUT FARMING, ITS ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP, WHATEVER YOUR CALLING IS.

Let the doctor start his own practise(And I pray for miti shamba, otherwise who'll build on what we already indigenously have?), a lawyer his practice(and hopefully brake away from long winding court cases that can be arbitrated at cheaper costs in lesser time) and the engineer come up with an original inovation etc

And also the same for the statistician with his first class honours, let him set his practice/trade as a statistician/data expert/market research expert etc. Amen.
Mukiri
#35 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:48:21 PM
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He must have thought out of the box and used his statistics in farming. Compare how he goes about farming to how our (fore)fathers do it. The returns and accolades he's getting etc

Proverbs 19:21
washiku
#36 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2014 11:54:59 PM
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Just the other day in a different thread we were asking how comes we import the most basic of things yet we have engineering graduates every other year. Bottom line is majority will graduate and start looking for the jobs leading to zero innovation. Our leadership is also a product of the same line of thought and thus invests very little money in R&D...Yet the few who attempt to be different are condemned for not choosing the nice path of employment. That is not sustainable. In fact the current wage bill debate has something to do with this mentality. The will always be a large number of people who will go for employment, but we also need to start even a bigger number trying out different things, otherwise who will employ those who love being employed? The large corporates that we admire to work for, the IBMs, the EABLs, Safaricoms, KCBs n such others were one day very tiny and it took the courage of a few to test out un-tried waters to have what is so attractive today that @Jagg has a few names to mention to his son when its time to guide himon picking the MManagement Trainee path.
murchr
#37 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:06:14 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
When Eric Mumo graduated from university with a First Class honours degree in 2009, he got several exciting job offers, but he declined them all.Applause Applause Applause

LINK




What a waste of brains. Very sad especially when it is our taxes that were used to subsidize his education at uni. Where would the US be technologically if all the top Ivy league brains turned down offers to work at NASA and Silicon Valley and instead opted to rear cows and chicken in the midwest?


That is why I fault this system of subsidizing education. The other problem with the system is placement. Why dont people study what their passion?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mukiri
#38 Posted : Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:53:57 AM
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washiku wrote:
Just the other day in a different thread we were asking how comes we import the most basic of things yet we have engineering graduates every other year. Bottom line is majority will graduate and start looking for the jobs leading to zero innovation. Our leadership is also a product of the same line of thought and thus invests very little money in R&D...Yet the few who attempt to be different are condemned for not choosing the nice path of employment. That is not sustainable. In fact the current wage bill debate has something to do with this mentality. The will always be a large number of people who will go for employment, but we also need to start even a bigger number trying out different things, otherwise who will employ those who love being employed? The large corporates that we admire to work for, the IBMs, the EABLs, Safaricoms, KCBs n such others were one day very tiny and it took the courage of a few to test out un-tried waters to have what is so attractive today that @Jagg has a few names to mention to his son when its time to guide himon picking the MManagement Trainee path.

Kenya would be way waaaayyy ahead in terms of development if your questions were answered.

How many cars do we have on our roads? What does that mean? Someone worked hard, then took his money to Japan, Germany etc. Money which if re-invested here would have yielded more and more and more. In addition to the cars is machinery, factory inputs, phones, computers, even clothes!!!! etc

It is people with sheep and/or slave mentality that are the true enemies of Kenya. People who'd not rather think but follow the norm. We need to re-invent our education systems, have kids come up with projects immediately they get out of their diapers. We need to have them believe in themselves.

If there is one thing that is clear, is that there is no wealthy person that is employed. NONE. No person who's left a mark, a name who was employed. They all believed in themselves enough to employ themselves.

Proverbs 19:21
washiku
#39 Posted : Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:47:20 PM
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Farming is as important, infact more important than many other professions. Just that we were lend to think otherwise.

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