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hamburglar
#41 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:26:55 PM
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Mukiri. Why are you giving this god guy all these praises? You are even singing for him? Lol. Damn. What exactly has he done to be praised with so much vigor? Or are you just doing it out of habit because that's what your parents taught you to do? Just curious, not trying to ruin your siku ya sermons.
Mukiri
#42 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:40:19 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Mukiri. Why are you giving this god guy all these praises? You are even singing for him? Lol. Damn. What exactly has he done to be praised with so much vigor? Or are you just doing it out of habit because that's what your parents taught you to do? Just curious, not trying to ruin your siku ya sermons.

I hear you boss and will indulge you. But humor me this, tell me how you made yourself, how you have and continue to sustain yourself, how you plan to leave this world and where you will go (that is if you plan to go somewhere... if not then how you will 'rest')

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#43 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 7:45:56 AM
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Finders Keepers II – The Morning After

Today is also a historic day for us as a church. Our first service at Hill City! Someone praise The Almighty God! It has been quite a journey of faith and we are still in that journey to making this place beautiful. Every weekend you come, there will be an improvement. It’s like being in a live edition of ‘Extreme Makeover.’ Let’s all be patient and let’s love this place. It is our home! A big shout out to, to our development team, our technical teams and ministry teams that have been working day and night to make this possible led by Pst Anthony ‘The Real Deal’ Mwaniki!

Today we are beginning a brand new series, ‘Finder’s Keeper’s II’ which as the name suggests is a sequel to one which we did a couple of years back.

Our teens are doing the same series but tailored for their age demographic & have titled it ‘Blurred Lines’. If you live anywhere in Kenya, you probably caught some of the media conversation this past week because of the poster they put out. Let me say that the intention of our young people in putting out the poster was to get teens from outside the church to come speak about sex and relationships. Intention was never to offend, and I am sorry that many were offended by it. However, what is clear is that there is a huge crisis facing our teens, and indeed our entire society in the area of sex and relationships. Thanks to the many of you who’ve had conversations on Mavuno’s behalf in your workplaces and homes, and social media. Thanks for sticking up for your family! The idea is not to engage in arguments but to say, ‘if you think there’s a better way to bring up the topic of sex so that young people want to engage, please show us and even better, please do it’! We must have this conversation. Please note this sermon is rated R.

So this month we want to learn from scripture about sex and relationships! Some here are praying to enter a romantic relationship soon and I pray that what we learn will help you better prepare for it. Some are already in a relationship or are married and I pray this month will give you a great opportunity to evaluate your relationship and learn how to grow it. Some are not interested in a romantic relationship; we’ve been hurt by someone or this is just not the time. And that’s fine too – I pray you’ll have a chance to learn more about yourself and the type of person God wants you to be. So allow me to begin with a question …

Why are relationships in Nairobi in such a mess today?

Here are some answers I got when I asked this.

Communication – in this age of social media, people have lost the ability to talk to real people – we no longer know how to communicate beyond 140 characters! Relationships today are about virtual communication and physical attraction. No wonder then that boredom follows after a few months or even weeks!

Misinformation - we live in this trendy, misinformed world where music videos, magazines, TV series’ and movies are the primary source of information about how sex and relationships work. E.g. put a man who is addicted to porn and a woman who is addicted to soap operas together –and boom – a recipe for disaster!

Expectations – many today see a relationship as the key to money, a lifestyle, and sex. Cougar & sugar daddy relationships abound – a friend who works with a leading FM station told us that they get 30 text messages from listeners every minute, and that almost half of those are by people requesting to be paired with a financially stable, much older individual. Dating today has devolved to assessing the other person’s financial ability or sexual compatibility.

Sexualisation – Starting in their teens and even younger, Kenyans seem to agree with P-Unit and Collo that when it comes to sex, you can gerrit! A friend who’s a pastor shared that 5 years ago, maybe 40% of couples he counselled said they’d been sleeping together before marriage. Things are so bad today that recently, when a couple said they had not slept together, he asked in shock, ‘really?’ i.e. if say you’re a virgin today, you actually sound suspect! And for those who are married, if you say you’ve been faithfully married for 10 years, people actually applaud! It’s like they don’t expect many to be like that!

Almost everyone agrees today that relationships in our city are in a mess. Not surprisingly, marriages are breaking up today after they’ve lasted a few months, and more than ever before, the next generation is growing up with a cynical attitude about marriage and commitment. The honeymoon is definitely over! It’s like we’ve all woken up The Morning After with a bad hangover.

That’s why I titled this message ‘The Morning After’. So why are our today relationships in such a mess? Please turn with me to Gen 2:19 & let’s find out about the source of relationship failure. Genesis 2:19-25 (NIV)

The bible story begins with a love story. God creates the perfect environment and then places the first couple into it. They are created for rule over creation and for relationship with one another. It’s a story full of joy, intimacy and meaning. The story of a man and woman who are equals in God’s image, and yet who fully complement each other. Interestingly, the bible talks about sex right away! It says they were ‘both naked and they felt no shame’. I know, you’re so saved and you think this has to do with doing bible study and sharing openly with each other. Shock on you! This text insinuates that sex in the Garden of Eden was incredible! Oops, sorry, pastors should never talk like that right? Actually, God believes in sex so much there’s a whole book about love and sex in the bible. THIS IS WHY WE MUST TALK ABOUT SEX IN THE CHURCH!

So – beautiful couple in love, complementing each other, completely transparent. That’s how it was meant to be. But soon enough, there was trouble in paradise. Let’s see what happens The Morning After. Gen 3:1-13

God’s enemy showed up in the form of one of the creatures God had created. He had two simple objectives.

Objective #1 - Isolate Man From Woman – Genesis 3:1 says, ‘He said to the woman’ – the first thing Satan did is separate Eve from Adam by addressing her alone. He had this entire conversation with her, completely ignoring her husband. This is what is called in warfare, ‘divide and conquer’. And as we shall see in a little while, he was completely successful in this objective.

Objective #2 - Isolate Humans From God – The rest of Genesis 3:1 says, ‘“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?”’ God didn’t say they shouldn’t eat from any tree, but Satan knew exactly what he was doing! By exaggerating God’s command, he was causing Eve to mistrust God’s intentions. And she fell for it, ‘we may eat from the trees in the garden but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will surely die”’. Now if you read Genesis 1, God had never said anything about touchingthe tree! Eve stopped seeing all the other trees in the garden and all she could think of was that God’s commands seemed harsh & unfair’! In the same way today, Satan is asking many of us, ‘Did God really say that sex was bad?’ And many good Christians are replying, ‘Not really! But… making me remain single so I might never enjoy sex… OR forcing me to stay married to my wife when she’s not meeting my needs… His commands do seem harsh & unfair!’

At the heart of Satan’s deception is the lie that you cannot trust others and that you cannot trust God. The only person you can trust is yourself. Nobody else really has your back. So go with what your gut tells you – if it feels good, do it! ‘I want what I want and I want it now!’ And so, Eve decided to do what felt good. She took a bite and then she shared it with her husband who if you notice had played a rather passive role in the whole story. (Ladies, ever notice how men tend to zone out sometimes! It’s called ‘the nothing box’)

And with that act of rebellion, a catastrophic series of events was set into motion. Just as the devil promised, their eyes were opened. But there’s a twist; you see – the devil never shows you the fine print! Yes – their eyes were opened but instead of seeing themselves as gods, they saw their true state without God: Weak, naked, helpless, vulnerable, naked and ashamed. They sewed fig leaves together to hide from each other (they must have made them separately, wonder if they were talking?) and they hid from God among the trees. And from that day, men and women have been hiding from one another and from God!

So Adam refused to take responsibility and blamed his wife and ultimately God. ‘The woman you gave me’! How many men do you know today who have refused to take responsibility for their relationships and are blaming the other person? And then do you notice how despite the betrayal, Eve shifted blame to the serpent? ‘The serpent deceived me and I ate’! How many women do you know today who are refusing to face the brutal fact that there’s a problem in their relationship, and are covering up what is really going on?

So let’s read the consequences of the morning after… Genesis 3:14-19.

There’s a famous line in Kenya – ‘choices have consequences!’ What followed next was the consequences. The serpent was cursed above all other creatures (suggesting they too were cursed). Work, which was meant to be a joy, became a burden. Childbearing, which was supposed to be a noble task, became a painful chore. What this means was that because of their rebellion, the creation that humans were meant to RULE, now became their enemy and that’s why our jobs today are often meaningless and just about the money and our workplaces are often toxic places full of politics and corruption.

But it’s in RELATIONSHIPS that the consequences of the morning after really bite. God told the woman, ‘Your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you’. Let me break this down, beginning with women and then coming to men. What this means is that from this time forward, women would have a deep & unquenchable yearning for the original intimate relationship they were created for. I’m generalizing here but little girls tend to start dreaming about their wedding day when they are very young. Beth Moore in her book ‘Breaking Free ’ says that ‘practically every little girl has at least four dreams: to be a bride, to be beautiful, to be fruitful and to live happily ever after’. But the problem is – that even if she finally finds her Prince Charming, he will never be able to satisfy her longings!

Let me talk to those men who are or have been in a relationship. And I want you to respond to the following questions with, ‘I do’ if and where applicable …

· Do you feel like there is always demand for more quality time?

· Do you feel like you never say enough “I love you” in a day?

· Do you feel like sometimes you can never make it to be the ideal man that women or your woman want?

Women will always desire for more from men! As a result of their unfulfilled desire (your desire will be for your husband), women tend to want to get love and acceptance at any cost. In other ways, Women’s insecurities lead them to manipulate others to get what they want.

Let’s talk about men. Whereas women tend to manipulate, men on the other hand tend to dominate. Throughout the world in every single culture that ever existed, men have used their physical strength to dominate women politically, socially, physically & economically. Even in the West, many years after the women’s rights movements, gender inequalities continue to persist in society. Political thinkers and feminist scholars have been unable to explain them. All over the world, the vast majority of cases of rape, incest and adultery are carried out by men. But beyond these obvious abuses are more subtle ones. For instance, why do women in society today aspire to be thin? Why do white women aspire to be tanned (or darker) and dark women aspire to be ‘fair & lovely’? The answer is powerful men taking advantage of women’s insecurities to sell a product. Ladies answer the following with I do or I don’t.

· Do you feel like men fear you if they get the slightest hint that you are stronger than them?

· Do you find men always wanting to win in conversations?

· Do you think men will date you if they think you are better than them in one way or the other?

Men’s insecurities lead them to dominate others to get what they want.

This is why our relationships are so messed up today. In a world of broken sexuality, both men and women are living the effects of the Morning After. We were created to enjoy fulfilling relationships with each other and God. But when we chose to do things our way, God released us to do so. Far from finding freedom, instead we became by nature dominators and manipulators: Husbands dominating their wives, wives manipulating their husbands. Men treating women as sex objects, women using men to meet their needs for security. Single people dying to be married – married people dying to be single… Sex is no longer about love and relationships but is about ‘how can I use this person to get what I want’? I want what I want and I want it now!

If this was the end of the story, it would be the most tragic ending there ever was! But thank God – it’s not over! Our hope is in verse 21… ‘the LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them’. Right there in the middle of their rebellion, God showed His love by covering their shame. That’s a foreshadowing of what Jesus would come to do. You see God is in the business of covering our shame! Despite our rebellion, He is the God of a 2nd chance.

You see, salvation is not just something that keeps me from hell and takes me to heaven. Salvation means that I am no longer a slave to the power & consequence of sin. This is why Jesus came. John 10:10 ‘The thief comes to steal, kill & destroy, I have come that they may have life and have it to the full’ There is hope! God is the God of the 2nd chance. We can come back to God’s plan. God doesn’t just want to save you ‘spiritually’; He also wants to saves you ‘sexually’! Sexual healing begins with confession and forgiveness.

So we’re going to be digging a lot into this sexual healing over the next few weeks, and next week is going to be a lot of fun, you want to be there! But let’s land this plane! How do we begin the journey towards sexual healing? Perhaps you are a wife who is has been angry because your husband is not supplying your need for intimacy. Perhaps you are a husband who wants to love your wife but you’ve found yourself dominating her or just being indifferent. Perhaps you’ve had an affair, or you’re punishing your spouse because they are not meeting your need. Or maybe you are single and engaging in sex outside the boundaries of marriage. Or you’re in the grip of sexual habit, like premarital sex, pornography, masturbation or other sexual addictions. Perhaps you have been in despair about never finding a spouse. Perhaps you have even begun dating a non-believer in order to fulfill that desire.

Wherever you are, the journey begins with two things…

CONFESSION
– Adam and Eve hid from God. God is calling us today to come out of hiding, and to confess our sins to Him. He knows what we have done and what we are doing. We have attempted to meet our own needs and this is getting us deeper into bondage. You see, the devil thrives on secrecy! He wants to isolate us from God and each other. He wants to divide and conquer by sharing secrets between you and him. That’s why confession is so powerful in bringing healing. 1 John 1:9 ‘if we confess our sins (God) is faithful & just to forgive our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness’, James 5:16 ‘Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed’. Sexual healing begins with confession and forgiveness.

FORGIVENESS - Forgive those who have abused, disappointed or hurt you – I hope you realize that terrible bully was an insecure man desperately trying to prove his power to himself. That manipulative mother was an insecure woman trying to get love at all costs. They too are caught up in the mess of sin and unless God saves them, they have no hope. That’s theirs. Don’t tie your fate up with them – leave them to God. You will always be a victim until you forgive! By forgiving, you open the way to your own healing. Sexual healing begins with confession and forgiveness

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#44 Posted : Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:11:15 AM
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What were the sermons, in your Church today, about?

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#45 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:54:17 PM
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TOUGH LOVE
Jesus Did Get Angry, Sometimes Even Violent!

The FACT is that Jesus did get angry sometimes...real angry...so angry that He actually fabricated a whip of cords, went into the temple, and started beating people. Jesus started flipping their tables over, hurling everything onto the temple floor. People were fleeing the temple for fear. They probably said ,"This guy has gone crazy...we're out of here!" Jesus let their doves go free (costing them a financial loss). He threw their money all over the floor...

"And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables" -John 2:15

Can you imagine? Is this our Precious Saviour acting like a mad man?

What do you think would happen to someone who did today exactly what Jesus did back then in the temple that day?

"Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." -Hebrews 1:9

Jesus Wasn't Hesitant to Offend People with the Truth!
1. Jesus reminds a woman about her adulterous affairs
In John 4:18, Jesus tells her that she is an adulterer (Matthew 5:32).
2. Jesus hurts someone's feelings
"Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions." -Matthew 19:21-22

The truth needed to be spoken! Jesus didn't kowtow and beat-around-the-bush. No, Jesus said what needed to be said.
3. Jesus calls a group of religious people "evil" snakes
"O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh." -Matthew 12:34

Wow!, Jesus called those religious people "evil." Doesn't sound like a very nice thing to do, huh? The diversity committee wouldn't have liked Jesus' outbursts of contempt and hate speech very much would they? Jesus would have been very unpopular in today's apostate world. Jesus even called them "vipers" (deadly snakes).
4. Jesus calls one of His own Disciples "Satan"

Jesus didn't discriminate, He evidently seemed to hate everyone, even His own disciples. Listen to what Jesus said to the Apostle Peter when Peter showed concern for Christ's well-being...

"But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men." -Matthew 16:23
Jesus accuses one of His disciples of being "a devil"
5. Jesus, while at the dinner table with His disciples, called one of them a "devil"...

"Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?" -John 6:70
6. Jesus' didn't seem to regard His own family either...

"Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?" -Matthew 12:47-48

Wow!, Jesus sure had a different side to Him that most people don't see (and don't want to see).
7. Jesus taught that many people will one day burn in Hell

Everyone likes to think about the "God loves you" Jesus, but no one wants to think about the "You're going to burn in hell" Jesus. Well, here He is...

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels" -Matthew 25:41
8. Jesus said, do it my way, or burn in Hell when you die!

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -John 14:6

The Truth of the Matter

You might be wondering about Jesus' character. Well, let me settle your mind, Jesus was justified in everything He ever said or did while upon the earth. According to God's Word, Jesus never sinned one time (2nd Corinthians 5:17, Hebrews 4:15). There was a spiritual truth, a heavenly reason, a greater purpose, behind every seemingly unkind thing Jesus ever did or said.

Sinful compromise. The wicked world wants to achieve unity between the righteous and the wicked, but there can be NO unity. Why? Because God's holiness cannot be compromised...God never changes (Malachi 3:6).

Jesus expressed His love at times in unconventional manners that mad people angry or frustrated at Him. John the Baptist was the greatest man born amongst women the Bible declares (Mathew 11:11). No doubt, Jesus loved John dearly. Yet, John didn't understand why he was rotting in a prison while God incarnate was walking the earth. I mean, John had done his very best to prepare the people for the Lord's coming, now he's on death row locked up behind bars. John became discouraged and even questioned Christ's legitimacy...

"And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?" -Luke 7:19

Wow!, did Jesus even abandon His friends in time of need? We don't understand the spiritual significance of what was done, but God knows the reasons. We must maintain a complete Biblical perspective of the Saviour. It is a dangerous thing to hold to a lopsided view of the Saviour. Jesus loves people, so much that He died upon the cross for all of us (John 3:16). Yet, Jesus shelled the corn (preached hard) and spoke the truth when it needed to be spoken. Jesus was no wimp, no spineless coward, no compromiser...Jesus was a man's man, the Son of God, God incarnate. Jesus cared for others and loved His family and friends. However, love cannot supercede truth. True love occurs within the framework of truth. If love is not based upon truth, then it is not God's love. I love you enough to tell you the truth, even though I may risk becoming unpopular or being disliked for it.


So to those of you who think that Jesus never spoke a harsh word or never criticized someone else's religion...you are very wrong! Jesus was quite outspoken and didn't worry about offending people. Jesus was much rather willing to be divided over truth, than to be united by error. Jesus was no respecter of persons and spoke the plain truth without apology. That's what you call "tough love." Let us follow in the Saviour's footsteps by doing the same. God deliver us from this weak-kneed generation.

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#46 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:13:31 PM
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Tough Love Jesus. The Jesus Most People Don't Want to see.

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Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#47 Posted : Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:03:30 AM
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@mukiri your long post above about how Jesus (peace be upon him) told it as it is, what do you say about his words in Matt 7:21? Question is are you doing God's will?

NOTE: For those who don't have a Bible, google "Matthew 7:21, KJV"
guru267
#48 Posted : Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:58:44 PM
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GOD'S WARNING TO ALL(PRESENT AND FUTURE)
1. Surely, We sent Noah to his people saying: "Warn others before a painful torment comes to them."

2. Noah said: "O my people! Truly I am just a plain warner to you,

3. "That you should worship God alone, fear Him and obey me,

4. "God will forgive you your sins and bless you for an appointed term which only He knows and which cannot be delayed."

5. Noah said to God: "O my Lord! Truly, I have called to my people openly and secretly to submit to you alone,

6. "But my calling only seems to have added to their disbelief of the truth.

7. And truly, every time I called unto them so that You might forgive them they thrust their fingers into their ears, persisted in their refusal and magnified themselves in pride.

8. "Then truly, I called to them aloud.

9. "And surely, I proclaimed to them in public, and appealed to them in private.


25. Because of their sins they were drowned, then made to enter the fire.

26. And Noah said: "Leave none of the disbelievers on the earth"

27. "If You leave them, they will mislead Your slaves and will only give birth to wicked disbelievers"


The Holy Qur'an: Chapter 71 (Noah)
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#49 Posted : Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:57:15 PM
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PROSTRATION AND PURIFICATION: THE BIBLE'S ONLY ANSWER TO PRAYER

Genesis 17:3 "Abram bowed to the ground and God said this to him......"

Exodus 30:17-21 "God said to Moses,..... "Before they enter the Tent of Meeting they MUST wash their hands and feet for fear of Hell"

Exodus 40:32-33 Whenever they entered the Tent of Meeting or approached the altar, they washed their hands and feet as God directed Moses.

Joshua 7:6 Joshua tore his garments and prostrated himself before the ark of God until nightfall

2Samuel 12:20 David got up from the ground purified himself and put on fresh clothes. Then he went to God's sanctuary and prostrated himself

2Chronicles 7:6 All the sons of Israel......bowed down to the pavement with their faces to the earth

Nehemiah 8:6-7 Then Ezra blessed God...... then they bowed down and face to the ground prostrated themselves before God.

Numbers 20:6-7 Leaving the assembly Moses and Aaron went to the Tent of Meeting. They threw themselves face downwards on the ground and the Glory of God appeared.

1Kings 18:42 Elijah climbed the top of Carmel and bowed down to the earth putting his face between his knees.

1Samuel 20:41 David rose from beside the hillock and fell face to the ground and bowed three times.

Judges 13:20-21 As the flame went up the angel of God ascended with it and Manoah and his wife fell face downwards on the ground

Ezekiel 9:8
While they were hacking them down, I stayed behind, I fell face downwards and exclaimed,.....

Matthew 17:6 When they heard this, the disciples fell on their faces, overcome with fear.

Matthew 26:39 And Jesus going on a little further fell on his face and prayed.

Revelations 7:11 And all the angels who were standing in a circle round the throne prostrated themselves before it and touched the ground with their foreheads worshipping God.....




Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Mukiri
#50 Posted : Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:40:11 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
guru267 wrote:
GOD'S WARNING TO ALL(PRESENT AND FUTURE)
1. Surely, We sent Noah to his people saying: "Warn others before a painful torment comes to them."

2. Noah said: "O my people! Truly I am just a plain warner to you,

3. "That you should worship God alone, fear Him and obey me,

4. "God will forgive you your sins and bless you for an appointed term which only He knows and which cannot be delayed."

5. Noah said to God: "O my Lord! Truly, I have called to my people openly and secretly to submit to you alone,

6. "But my calling only seems to have added to their disbelief of the truth.

7. And truly, every time I called unto them so that You might forgive them they thrust their fingers into their ears, persisted in their refusal and magnified themselves in pride.

8. "Then truly, I called to them aloud.

9. "And surely, I proclaimed to them in public, and appealed to them in private.


25. Because of their sins they were drowned, then made to enter the fire.

26. And Noah said: "Leave none of the disbelievers on the earth"

27. "If You leave them, they will mislead Your slaves and will only give birth to wicked disbelievers"


The Holy Qur'an: Chapter 71 (Noah)

In a bid to try and understand your Holy book, please allow me to ask, is all/most of what is in the Bible's Old testament also in the Qu'ran?

Proverbs 19:21
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