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ku on rampage,fires&lootings
Feish
#41 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2009 8:48:00 PM
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Thank God am not prepared to lose my job soon since it will take a liitle long before they graduate

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#42 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:19:00 AM
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Where is Chairman Adan Mohamed in all this? It is obvious that the VC has lost control. Don't condemn me as sexist,but an institution with men MUST be headed by a man,unless it is a disciplined force. Look at Sunshine School,and now KU.
masukuma
#43 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:31:00 AM
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Kenyan students are really myopic,they waste their time in campus like univerisity is a destination. they enjoy being sent home for times on end while their counterparts in private univerisities move on. they clear campus late (not mentioning the 1 plus year they waited before going to university) then join the world and find that what they were agitating for was plain stupidity and of zero value. In my experience at Egerton loosing about 26 months of time in campus,none of the issues people complained about affected me individually nor were changed because of those agitations- but i joined the job market 2 years later now am playing catch-up. The only useful thing the student union did is petition in court the univerisity using collected signatures on some academic issue and it won.

My point,the VC is working,earning,the lecturers are working,earning,the non teaching staff are earning with or without the students being in class. but the stupid students are the only ones who are paying and staying at home,getting injured and guess what they will pay for their stupidity;if they think the 1k was too much let them wait for the bill on this one - they may think its a toll free number they are being given to call ; they will pay time-wise since dunia inaendelea na bado uniform (or is it dress-code) watavaa. Guess what mitihani watafanya!!!!
we can guess who the only losers in this story are.
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masukuma
#44 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:39:00 AM
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for once let students stop thinking that the administration is their enemy!!! the administration wants the students to pass thru campus as fast as possible,they are in it for the money!!
the students should stop electing those luo student leaders!!! hao ndio wanataka kuishi university forever
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jammo
#45 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:58:00 AM
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The apparent police brutality n comical demeanor of the commish really really really irked me at first...and then i saw the blazing biuldings...especially the theatre and the one Nyayo hostel...n somehow,my ire with the cops subsided!!....i'm sorry...it jus did.

The race is not always to the swift..nor the battle always to the strong..nor food always to the wise..nor riches always to the intelligent..favor is not always to the skilled..or learned..but time and chance happens to all. Ecl9:5..
tuvok
#46 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:10:00 AM
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I'm pretty sure that a good number of the guys arrested by the cops were not involved in looting,burning blah. I know of one dude who was arrested after he had gone into one of the burning buildings to rescue someone who had got stuck there.

Usually in such a situation,there's the guys who wika 'comrade power' etc etc,get guys agitated,then slowly slink away to watch the 'fruits of their labour'. This time though,the fruits will be bitter,unfortunately,for all - whether you were throwing that stone,or running away from it all.

Unfortunately,many student unions leaders are in it for themselves,possibly as a launching pad for their future political careers...



It just boils down to COMMUNICATION,or the lack of it. It's a big problem in Kenya though,not just in KU.
Njunge
#47 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:51:00 AM
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Whatever the reason would be,nothing warrants the kind of destruction witnessed at KU..............Isn't it time we re-visited the issue of mandatory NYS training for prospective university students as was the case prior to the 8-4-4 system....??.....This system helped instil discipline,self believe and a couple life lessons to students then........


Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
adept
#48 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:54:00 AM
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The 'fires&rootings' don't achieve much except wasted time,needless extra expenses,physical injury and sometimes death...that is how the students 'benefit'.

During our time,the chaos pinched us so hard that we decided to organize an informal anti-strike movement. Because of what?(sic) Because your seco. school desk mate who went to private uni would graduate while you are still in 2nd year 1st sem. We came to our senses...

It was a student initiative...no administration involvement or support...we were not successful all the time but we managed to prevent a few...until we graduated...

Then we let the guys behind us cook in their own fat...hehehe.

I always view undergrad students as kids (unfortunate but true. Even their behavior vindicates that position)...hata kama wako over 18. There is no justification for violent protest,but the VC has to be the bigger person...the adult. It is not an easy job...

I am still so fascinated by the rootings thing...now I understand why the students are so reluctant to sit exams...with such English,even I would be!
nanfor
#49 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:23:00 AM
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Now I understand why this forum was called the ultimate tribal elite gathering.

I fail to see how a snickering commish and an obviously incompetent VC are supposed to identify those that caused the chaos from those who were in their dorms actually studying for their exams the next day.

Let me look at your arguments

1. They should wear decent dress - why stop there. Let us have them all saved while at it and wear chastity belts

2. They should join the NYS - If your child needs to go to the NYS for discipline then that is your problem not mine. It is the parents duty to discipline their children. I never saw NYS ever. There is no NYS in MIT.They are still sharper than you and more disciplined. Has to do with parents.

3. They deserved it - This is an argument obviously propagated by those who have never seen the police in action during campus riots. I would not be surprised if they have arrested a cook and a lecturer in all this. I know for a fact that those who did the burning are not there. Even from video evidence,most of those arrested had no shoes. Can you imagine that. An arsonist without shoes. I would love to be the lawyer in that case.

4. 8-4-4 system - An argument that is as shallow as the messenger. Dismissed with the contempt it deserves.

As you can see all these are shallow arguments at best.

The problem I insist is the KU admin. If you do not communicate and instead enjoy your own students being beaten up by the police,then you are the problem. Note that even the lecturers union is not supporting her.

Those that burned the schools should be arrested and tried. I wonder who here believes the police are capable of investigating anything other than the next bribe they will get.

That woman needs an attitude adjustment or KU will burn again. If she can lie on camera that no student was hurt,I wonder what else she is lying about. Njunge you have to admit that the woman is a liar. We were treated to two liars yesterday. The commish and this woman.

As for those who love it when the police shoot people. I keep on saying,you should be very wary of what you wish upon others.
Njunge
#50 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:39:00 AM
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where is the tribe....??....On the NYS front,i say you sound too young to understand.Fortunately,it is not rocket science.Ask and you will be given.

Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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