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Matatu Business
Rankaz13
#251 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:45:15 PM
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matatuman wrote:
Prime wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Prime wrote:
jerry wrote:
Prime wrote:
Matatuman... out of curiousity... wewe ni official wa sacco yenu? hehe. On the same issue, I spoke with someone who told me they could hook me up at 28k for the governor. I however wanted to know if I could buy, or pay a downpayment and have it fixed towards the end of march. I am waiting for the answer. I will call tomorrow. They however said that they could do at 25k as sacco negotiated rates.

Jerry, The guys at ngara tell me they have worked on some KBYs which have been registered. Im yet to see one on the road though. so i cant vouch for their statement yet.

Thanks @Prime. I had actually been informed of a KBY 7**D(mine is KBY 8**A) operating in Meru though not sure of exact route. I'm also not sure of it's TLB status.



Jerry, I have now seen several KBYs. Something's cookin. Hope you are getting somewhere.


Thats good news, i am still curious about the consignee bit though when importing. Are those vehicles in the Sacco/Company name or are they in individuals names? The regulations by this Kamau guy are gray in that area. But we'll see once Jerry gets his on the road then he can update us.


The consignee remains your name. An agreement is then written between the sacco and the "owner". theres a clause that reads as follows
"the sacco and the owner(s)of the motor vehicle herein are jointly registered proprietors of the motor vehicles whose particulars are as follows...

In other words, the agreement is what makes the vehicle to be owned by BOTH parties. Joint ownership. i madea copy of the agreement I made with our sacco. I can send you on mail if interested.


Please do, I will appreciate. You can reach me on matatuman123 at gmail dot com. I might just take the plunge before someone makes some roadside declaration. One other question, what happens if your sacco has exhausted it's allocation?


The TLB is supposed to do an audit to reconcile the figures of 'vacancies' allocated, those that were filled and in case any weren't filled, they are reallocated. For this reason, SACCOs have been asked to make some returns showing the vehicles they have under them, etc. However, no word as yet on how long this will take.
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matatuman
#252 Posted : Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:37:19 AM
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@Jerry: have you succeeded in getting TLB?
jerry
#253 Posted : Thursday, March 06, 2014 2:09:40 PM
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matatuman wrote:
@Jerry: have you succeeded in getting TLB?

Sorry to keep you waiting but I decided to put it on OLX on 27/02/2014. It's registered as a van and advance tax paid for a van (not matatu). My SACCO manager either didn't know the "new rules" or didn't want to tell me. If I dispose it I can bring another one as I seek info on the regulations.
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jerry
#254 Posted : Thursday, March 06, 2014 11:52:08 PM
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jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
@Jerry: have you succeeded in getting TLB?

Sorry to keep you waiting but I decided to put it on OLX on 27/02/2014. It's registered as a van and advance tax paid for a van (not matatu). My SACCO manager either didn't know the "new rules" or didn't want to tell me. If I dispose it I can bring another one as I seek info on the regulations.

I have today perused through concluded deals on Japan-partner and I noted that HiAce prices have gone up since I acquired mine in December. I'm tempted to increase the "asking price" on OLX.
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Rankaz13
#255 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 8:43:29 AM
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jerry wrote:
jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
@Jerry: have you succeeded in getting TLB?

Sorry to keep you waiting but I decided to put it on OLX on 27/02/2014. It's registered as a van and advance tax paid for a van (not matatu). My SACCO manager either didn't know the "new rules" or didn't want to tell me. If I dispose it I can bring another one as I seek info on the regulations.

I have today perused through concluded deals on Japan-partner and I noted that HiAce prices have gone up since I acquired mine in December. I'm tempted to increase the "asking price" on OLX.


Jana niliona KBY/H na ni ya Meru route. How are these guys getting them?
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matatuman
#256 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 9:01:09 AM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
jerry wrote:
jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
@Jerry: have you succeeded in getting TLB?

Sorry to keep you waiting but I decided to put it on OLX on 27/02/2014. It's registered as a van and advance tax paid for a van (not matatu). My SACCO manager either didn't know the "new rules" or didn't want to tell me. If I dispose it I can bring another one as I seek info on the regulations.

I have today perused through concluded deals on Japan-partner and I noted that HiAce prices have gone up since I acquired mine in December. I'm tempted to increase the "asking price" on OLX.


Jana niliona KBY/H na ni ya Meru route. How are these guys getting them?



Thats my question too. Maybe Jerry can assist us by telling us what documents/requirements he was missing and what documents he presented at the point of registration.
Prime
#257 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 9:59:30 AM
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Jerry, Raha shuttles have several KBYs. I highly doubt they are almost exhausting their allocated maximum allowable vehicles considering they did not buy many nguruwes (townace). I also did the van inspection in mombasa in order to get my number plates. What is required are the chevrons, reflectors, PSV advance tax etc. But I still had to re-do the inspection, this time not van but matatu inspection. Before that i had to fit the seats, seatbelts, speed governor, route. Only After the inspection did I do the branding of the mat. Among the items required for TLB is the matatu Inspection certificate, speed governor certificate, Letter from the sacco, Valid insurance (Matatu insurance). I hope that all will be well. That you will get a good price for the unit. Though You would definitely get a much better price if it was registered. As in uuze ikiwa kwa lami.
matatuman
#258 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 2:38:57 PM
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@Jerry, what document was missing or what explanation were you given for it to end up being registered as a van?
jerry
#259 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 7:28:41 PM
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Prime wrote:
Jerry, Raha shuttles have several KBYs. I highly doubt they are almost exhausting their allocated maximum allowable vehicles considering they did not buy many nguruwes (townace). I also did the van inspection in mombasa in order to get my number plates. What is required are the chevrons, reflectors, PSV advance tax etc. But I still had to re-do the inspection, this time not van but matatu inspection. Before that i had to fit the seats, seatbelts, speed governor, route. Only After the inspection did I do the branding of the mat. Among the items required for TLB is the matatu Inspection certificate, speed governor certificate, Letter from the sacco, Valid insurance (Matatu insurance). I hope that all will be well. That you will get a good price for the unit. Though You would definitely get a much better price if it was registered. As in uuze ikiwa kwa lami.

@Prime, You've understood the process of matatu registration very clearly. How much would someone expect to make on a single van? If I have to put it on the road it means I exclude those who may be interested in the van for other uses!
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jerry
#260 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 7:37:38 PM
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matatuman wrote:
@Jerry, what document was missing or what explanation were you given for it to end up being registered as a van?

I didn't have a lot of cash so I wanted to get it out of the port as fast as possible. The delay beyond the four days given to remove it from port cost me 25k. I would have to pay 10,080 (I paid 2,640/=) advance tax and fit seats, speed governor, chevrons, painting...
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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