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Witcraft - why gays should be the least of our worries
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#11 Posted : Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:06:15 AM
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Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:



No one really talks about how to control how people think.

On this Oginde has not really bitten the dust, more like licked it.

Many indeed are fumbling for relevance and how some are fumbling exceed how yet others fumble.

Are 'coming' out of the gays meant to be local, small scale, personal parousia?


It's a disturbing topic.I'd imagine few would want to be confronted by the possibility of their thoughts and perceptions not being their own.

I don't believe the coming out of gays and the legalization of marijuana to be random or local.


Their thoughts are already not their own. If it were, they would think about these things. I had earlier mentioned that society has been dumbed and numbed down. They have their own opium of the masses, as they accuse others of what they themselves have.

They indeed are not random or local events.


The incentives for dumbing and numbing down people are still the same: wealth and power.Only the approach has changed.Like Don Marquis puts it "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you."
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#12 Posted : Thursday, March 06, 2014 9:14:05 PM
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Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:


What does Nietzsche mean by that? Who or what is this 'abyss'?


I don't know what he meant.I'm asking myself the same questions.


Nietzsche! Nietzsche! Nietzsche!


Indeed.
Drobos fly
#13 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 3:43:01 AM
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Muriel wrote:


What does Nietzsche mean by that? Who or what is this 'abyss'?


Try this - Stare at someone long enough, see whether they'll eventually look back at you

In real-life application, it could likely mean:- Whoever fights monsters should watch out they don't become a monster
Muriel
#14 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 8:53:00 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
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symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:



No one really talks about how to control how people think.

On this Oginde has not really bitten the dust, more like licked it.

Many indeed are fumbling for relevance and how some are fumbling exceed how yet others fumble.

Are 'coming' out of the gays meant to be local, small scale, personal parousia?


It's a disturbing topic.I'd imagine few would want to be confronted by the possibility of their thoughts and perceptions not being their own.

I don't believe the coming out of gays and the legalization of marijuana to be random or local.


Their thoughts are already not their own. If it were, they would think about these things. I had earlier mentioned that society has been dumbed and numbed down. They have their own opium of the masses, as they accuse others of what they themselves have.

They indeed are not random or local events.


The incentives for dumbing and numbing down people are still the same: wealth and power.Only the approach has changed.Like Don Marquis puts it "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you."


I let out a chuckle on this one. I had not known this perspective before.

Perhaps could this be why brother, yourself and I, well, we tell and make people to read then ,,,,,,,,,,, hopefully, think ,,,,,,,,,,

??
Muriel
#15 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 8:57:00 AM
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Drobos fly wrote:
Muriel wrote:


What does Nietzsche mean by that? Who or what is this 'abyss'?


Try this - Stare at someone long enough, see whether they'll eventually look back at you

In real-life application, it could likely mean:- Whoever fights monsters should watch out they don't become a monster


Plausible. I am sure there is yet another meaning. Nietzsche also did write for just a few.
danas10
#16 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 9:30:20 AM
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Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:



No one really talks about how to control how people think.

On this Oginde has not really bitten the dust, more like licked it.

Many indeed are fumbling for relevance and how some are fumbling exceed how yet others fumble.

Are 'coming' out of the gays meant to be local, small scale, personal parousia?


It's a disturbing topic.I'd imagine few would want to be confronted by the possibility of their thoughts and perceptions not being their own.

I don't believe the coming out of gays and the legalization of marijuana to be random or local.


Their thoughts are already not their own. If it were, they would think about these things. I had earlier mentioned that society has been dumbed and numbed down. They have their own opium of the masses, as they accuse others of what they themselves have.

They indeed are not random or local events.


The incentives for dumbing and numbing down people are still the same: wealth and power.Only the approach has changed.Like Don Marquis puts it "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you."


I let out a chuckle on this one. I had not known this perspective before.

Perhaps could this be why brother, yourself and I, well, we tell and make people to read then ,,,,,,,,,,, hopefully, think ,,,,,,,,,,

??


...smh Sad Sad Sad
tycho
#17 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 10:21:51 AM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
The problem is propaganda/perception management/witcraft is the norm and governments just like corporations use it against their citizens leaving the door open for other 'forces' to do the same.Don't politicians use 'hopium' and 'wishcraft' to get their way rather than logic?I didn't see him advocate 'tychese' which would foster understanding and better relations but "strategic witcraft".What does that say?


This is a drowning man clutching at straws. Why does the message of salvation through Christ also demand for 'witcraft'?

Imagine 'witcraft' in the face of Galileo's works. And the horribly managed chasm in human affairs that has grown so wide to date.

Oginde has bitten the dust, and is fumbling for relevance.


Did Christ use 'prayer backed witcraft' against the devil? Or Joseph to Pharaoh?

The stories themselves are instances of witcraft, aren't they?

But essentially witcraft isn't just violent, but always subsists in a 'master- slave' relationship. A few elite bear the burden of the world on their shoulders and compensate themselves with wealth, and glory, and power. While the vast majority, the masses, are stored in carefully labeled jars, in the shop of the living dead.

It's the nations that brought us the Bible under tight sanctions, that are now bringing the 'lawless' world, still armed with sanctions. What does this mean, especially when we remind ourselves that the African wasn't Godless before proselytization to the Christ of England and Germany, or Rome?

The writer is simply choosing the easier way out. The way that butter's his bread. But the more he calls for witcraft the more we get dehumanized, the more we perish. The harder way that offers freedom and responsibility to all is the way of deconstructing everything we have and admit that the journey of and for truth is eternal, and still find freedom their in through identity not just among humans but between Man and God. Let the individual work himself to perfection just as Christ bid us. If Christ overcame death, then any individual can triumph. But is this individual going to wait for Oginde to triumph for him? Now that the vicarious triumph of Christ needs witcraft?

tycho
#18 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 10:29:47 AM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
danas10 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:



No one really talks about how to control how people think.

On this Oginde has not really bitten the dust, more like licked it.

Many indeed are fumbling for relevance and how some are fumbling exceed how yet others fumble.

Are 'coming' out of the gays meant to be local, small scale, personal parousia?


It's a disturbing topic.I'd imagine few would want to be confronted by the possibility of their thoughts and perceptions not being their own.

I don't believe the coming out of gays and the legalization of marijuana to be random or local.


Their thoughts are already not their own. If it were, they would think about these things. I had earlier mentioned that society has been dumbed and numbed down. They have their own opium of the masses, as they accuse others of what they themselves have.

They indeed are not random or local events.


The incentives for dumbing and numbing down people are still the same: wealth and power.Only the approach has changed.Like Don Marquis puts it "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you."


I let out a chuckle on this one. I had not known this perspective before.

Perhaps could this be why brother, yourself and I, well, we tell and make people to read then ,,,,,,,,,,, hopefully, think ,,,,,,,,,,

??


...smh Sad Sad Sad


Apparently, when you descend into the abyss, and go deep and deep, you transform and there's a rock bottom. That's the 'highest place'. All the glory of the world is filth, and what we may perceive as music is noise.
Angelica _ann
#19 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 10:33:15 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,937
OKEI!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Muriel
#20 Posted : Friday, March 07, 2014 11:12:14 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
tycho wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
The problem is propaganda/perception management/witcraft is the norm and governments just like corporations use it against their citizens leaving the door open for other 'forces' to do the same.Don't politicians use 'hopium' and 'wishcraft' to get their way rather than logic?I didn't see him advocate 'tychese' which would foster understanding and better relations but "strategic witcraft".What does that say?


This is a drowning man clutching at straws. Why does the message of salvation through Christ also demand for 'witcraft'?

Imagine 'witcraft' in the face of Galileo's works. And the horribly managed chasm in human affairs that has grown so wide to date.

Oginde has bitten the dust, and is fumbling for relevance.


Did Christ use 'prayer backed witcraft' against the devil? Or Joseph to Pharaoh?

The stories themselves are instances of witcraft, aren't they?

But essentially witcraft isn't just violent, but always subsists in a 'master- slave' relationship. A few elite bear the burden of the world on their shoulders and compensate themselves with wealth, and glory, and power. While the vast majority, the masses, are stored in carefully labeled jars, in the shop of the living dead.

It's the nations that brought us the Bible under tight sanctions, that are now bringing the 'lawless' world, still armed with sanctions. What does this mean, especially when we remind ourselves that the African wasn't Godless before proselytization to the Christ of England and Germany, or Rome?

The writer is simply choosing the easier way out. The way that butter's his bread. But the more he calls for witcraft the more we get dehumanized, the more we perish. The harder way that offers freedom and responsibility to all is the way of deconstructing everything we have and admit that the journey of and for truth is eternal, and still find freedom their in through identity not just among humans but between Man and God. Let the individual work himself to perfection just as Christ bid us. If Christ overcame death, then any individual can triumph. But is this individual going to wait for Oginde to triumph for him? Now that the vicarious triumph of Christ needs witcraft?



The area currently called Palestine did this?

Blow me down!!!!!!!

Who makes the elite elite? Who gave them the responsibility they 'have'?
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