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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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@Wendz: I totally agree with you that there should be some decency in the student's dress and you summarise it very succinctly when you say;
'Every work place has a dress code. May be if she used 'decency' they would understand - somehow.... what is wrong with universities having dress codes. I am not sure she is asking more than them being decent..... no tumbo-cuts,miniskirts,shorts etc. Thats how strathmore is..... May be she felt the students have gone over-board in their 'dress down'.... may be dressed down literally.'
I know you did not have guts to mention one thing,being the decent lady that you are: and that is display of thongs by ladies. I went to collect my certificate last year and was wondering to myself whether the whole university had turned into a playboy mansion!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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so...after all the 'rooting' & comrade power,what good have the students achieved?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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@magigi
Thank God am not alone in this! I almost said exactly that.....
@Mcreg
Albertross is talking of real life experiences. so many times we have had to push our deadlines earlier than previously set. Look at farmers,who tells them when to plant? God doesnt say,'hey dude,i will make it rain on 30th March 2009 at 3.16.04pm so get your hoe and seeds ready.............' Thats real life. So,you have to adjust yourself to the timetable. And after wasting their time stoning hardworking kenyan's vehicles what did they expect? the university to adjust to their timetable and compensate for the time they lost or to adhere to the set academic timetable? Even form four students know,if they go on strike and burn their domitories,the final exams will start on 21 October each year or thereabouts.... Besides,these are full time students. what else were they expected to do if not studying? Stoning cars,looting and stealing?
Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/20/2007 Posts: 98
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@ Nyangao & Mcregge,you two must be the pride of your teachers,seeing how you can tell by just reading what I said that I did not go to any public university.
Just one thing is missing in your assesment,how it gives anyone,anyone the right to destroy because they are i) broke,ii) stressed out,iii) facing peer pressure or any other excuse you can think of.
Please guys keep this in perspective,the fact that I do not agree with you gives you an opportunity to argue your side of the story.
Lastly,if your 18 year old said they do not like the job you have helped them get and so because he was broke he was going to lounge at your house,pray what would you do? And what if he started to steal from you to indulge himself?
Thinking is free...............so THINK!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/27/2008 Posts: 150
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This is clearly an indication that something has gone terribly wrong with our society. From primary schools to secondary schools to campuses and the general public as a whole. Who taught us that problems are solved by violence and destruction of property? Why don't we hear of such incidents in our neighbouring countries? Clearly this is a terrible cancer that has afflicted our society. I believe there is only one solution. We must learn that all our actions have consequences. In this case if it means expelling half the students then so be it. Then maybe we will learn
R
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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I cant help but think about last month when some one was asking about an MBA and there was a lot busy advocating for public uni because private uni are useless .... mcreggae et al. Now the same lot is busy saying how life is hard in public uni and albertross doesnt understand how life is at public uni .......... @mcreggae you are truly a product of .................... THE @albertross. I agree with you the flimsy excuses we have in public uni for rioting are retrogressive and dysfunctional. But i also think that the administration taking a fixed stance and not being open to dialogue will only result to strike. The university has a duty to ensure there are channels to address the student issues.
SK A.L.U.M.N.I (Alcoholic Liason and Undergarments Manager of Nakedness Internationally)
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2009 Posts: 172
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For those advocating for 'decent' dressing in college,why not just make every college student go to your church while at it.
The reason it's called a university is because its a place where young people go find themselves. If you want children to dress well,start at home. In the university,it is too late! And if dressing is the only thing that you think goes on there,then you need a lesson in young people's hormones. Including the hormones of those wearing long skirts.
When it comes to how people dress in college,the woman is way over her terms of employment.
Striking students are an ugly scene. It is an ugly scene because it shows exactly what is going on in our country. I wanted them arrested then I remembered the police in Kenya don't investigate anything. They enter a dorm 'huyo ni student,lete yeye hapa. Ana strike!'. So I really doubt if those who started this were ever arrested.
We have students who seem to have lost the plot. I was in that UON and never imagined burning my own dorm. That is really uncouth. I support Ida Odinga in this.
But have you seen the difference between what Ida said and that Mugendi woman said? That VC woman is only interested in punishing people before she even asks what is going on. What is she doing there? A press conference promising fire and brimestone will not stop campus riots. It infact makes them worse. I agree with alma,the admin is part of the problem in this thing. You don't tell starving people how to dress and only talk to them through the press.
This is the Kenyan society. The ones in charge thinking they know everything will not listen to anyone. The ones who are being done,decide to take the law in their own hands. In the end,no one is listening and another house is burned. This time,the politicians were not there. Only we Kenyans.
This is very sad. As for the simplistic solution to expell all students. It seems you are very young or not well read. Campus students have been rioting and expelled forever. It has never stopped one single riot!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Sunday,1930 Hrs: coleagues driving past Ruiru; a matatu ahead suddenly brakes n goes off the road. They brake too. Suddenly,hail of heavy stones/rocks,an ambush! Windshield n windows smashed,body badly dented....the 4dudes drive slowly,at night,as they count their losses....to Nanyuki.... Truest proverb: Mwenda pole hajikwai TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 190
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Lets not generalise the issue.when a handful of hooligans meticulously organise the 'riots'and i believe most are free walkin in their homes,most inocent students are caught flat footed in the campus compound then we blame the all students.
hey
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/30/2009 Posts: 50
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Dialogue in education!
...the proverbial tortoise and hare...
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