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VituVingiSana
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:15:06 AM
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Unless the shares are sold at a huge discount this might not be as profitable as earlier Rights Issues for other banks like NIC or SCBK.

And then there is the NSSF with its potential to mismanage NBK through the Board.

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mwekez@ji
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:36:01 AM
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This MD should become a shareholder. That will tame his public release of information. He is really screwing this counter by releasing a series of bad news and then rights issue call .... poor @cde et al
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#3 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:19:07 AM
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Someone tell Munir to stop smoking whatever he's smoking. The chap now says NBK has independent directors #MustBeWeedOrSomethingLikeThat ... he he >>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica....04/-/284y7u/-/index.html
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the deal
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:32:58 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Someone tell Munir to stop smoking whatever he's smoking. The chap now says NBK has independent directors #MustBeWeedOrSomethingLikeThat ... he he >>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica....04/-/284y7u/-/index.html

Kuweni serious...give him a chance...maybe he will turn this poor perfomer into something to talk about.
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VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:54:01 AM
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the deal wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Someone tell Munir to stop smoking whatever he's smoking. The chap now says NBK has independent directors #MustBeWeedOrSomethingLikeThat ... he he >>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica....04/-/284y7u/-/index.html

Kuweni serious...give him a chance...maybe he will turn this poor perfomer into something to talk about.
The statement by @mwekezaji was about Corporate Governance not performance.
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#6 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2013 9:46:40 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Someone tell Munir to stop smoking whatever he's smoking. The chap now says NBK has independent directors #MustBeWeedOrSomethingLikeThat ... he he >>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica....04/-/284y7u/-/index.html

Kuweni serious...give him a chance...maybe he will turn this poor perfomer into something to talk about.
The statement by @mwekezaji was about Corporate Governance not performance.


ditto paramount chief @VVS. And CBK have responded firmly on this matter >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica....0/-/iv9sv7z/-/index.html
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#7 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 4:35:07 PM
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National Bank appoints rights issue advisors
Don't Work for Money, Let Money Work for You..
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#8 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 4:49:22 PM
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georgegop wrote:
National Bank appoints rights issue advisors

And the journey back to sub 30 begins in earnestsmile
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PKoli
#9 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 10:47:46 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
georgegop wrote:
National Bank appoints rights issue advisors

And the journey back to sub 30 begins in earnestsmile


Why would it go below 30s? Poor FY results or rights issue announcements?
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mwekez@ji
#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:20:24 AM
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PKoli wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
georgegop wrote:
National Bank appoints rights issue advisors

And the journey back to sub 30 begins in earnestsmile


Why would it go below 30s? Poor FY results or rights issue announcements?


FY13 results will be very good, +50% on PBT ... but rights issue,
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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:52:17 AM
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That is a HUGE Rights Issue to raise KES 13bn but a large chunk will be the conversion of Preference Shares to Common Shares so do NOT expect NBK to get a huge boost in it's Shareholders' Capital.

The good news for NBK is it will not have to pay Preference Dividends to NSSF but it will have to pay common dividends. The bad news is that NSSF will have a larger direct say in NBK due to the Preference [non-voting] shares to [voting] Common shares.

Can NBK become a Takeover Target? Yes, but only if NBK allows it. Will CBK allow NSSF to own more than 25% of NBK? That needs to be seen.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:09:09 AM
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Another huge rights issue... This has put a dumper on this laggard and I'm forced to strike it out from the laggards bus until the rights issue becomes clear. KQ rights mess was as messy as it can get.

Possible for it to break below the 30/- handle as the rights is digested even with super results!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:21:40 AM
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A rights price of above 20 wont be attractive and they should be very careful that the market price might meet the rights price.very many counters are turning to be a sell lol!!
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VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:31:36 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
That is a HUGE Rights Issue to raise KES 13bn but a large chunk will be the conversion of Preference Shares to Common Shares so do NOT expect NBK to get a huge boost in it's Shareholders' Capital.

The good news for NBK is it will not have to pay Preference Dividends to NSSF but it will have to pay common dividends. The bad news is that NSSF will have a larger direct say in NBK due to the Preference [non-voting] shares to [voting] Common shares.

Can NBK become a Takeover Target? Yes, but only if NBK allows it. Will CBK allow NSSF to own more than 25% of NBK? That needs to be seen.
And here is an article http://www.standardmedia...ank-s-rights-issue-plan
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the deal
#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:50:25 AM
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This stock I will buy below Ksh20 at some point during the year...thats if I become interested.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:04:18 AM
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hisah wrote:
Another huge rights issue... This has put a dumper on this laggard and I'm forced to strike it out from the laggards bus until the rights issue becomes clear. KQ rights mess was as messy as it can get.

Possible for it to break below the 30/- handle as the rights is digested even with super results!



@hisah, With Msc getting one year extension and Nbk calling for rights,only Kk and Kq remain on the laggards list. 2014 might turn out to be a difficult year as the bear reigns.
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hisah
#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:17:57 AM
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mkeiy wrote:
hisah wrote:
Another huge rights issue... This has put a dumper on this laggard and I'm forced to strike it out from the laggards bus until the rights issue becomes clear. KQ rights mess was as messy as it can get.

Possible for it to break below the 30/- handle as the rights is digested even with super results!



@hisah, With Msc getting one year extension and Nbk calling for rights,only Kk and Kq remain on the laggards list.

The list now has KPLC, KQ and KK. I'm now scoping TPSE and TCL. I've got an eye too on KEGN if the price breaks below 10 and lower.

For 2014 I've picked WTK and NMG and still hold KQ (Q4 2013) and a small SCOM lot and CFC (the only long term play). I'm playing purely defensive until the eurobond issue becomes clear.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Metasploit
#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:33:43 AM
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Blood bath!

25 isnt a mirage

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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PKoli
#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:53:59 AM
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Metasploit wrote:
Blood bath!

25 isnt a mirage

It looks there is blood bath on NBK. I never saw this coming.
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mlennyma
#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:03:04 PM
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if you didn't get out wait for the sword.its very sharp.investors don't want to hear the word rights of huge amounts and I feel nervous the market is showing bear signs everyday.we might never know when the mother bear reaches.
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