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Secularism... a dangerous way
hamburglar
#21 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 7:54:47 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
@Guru and Alphadoti, there is no last days, you guys will die and leave others in this world screaming last days like you or committing sins that you are condemning here.

The last days is when you die, thats what should worry you, don't worry about the rest of the world, they will continue with their business as they are now


Laughing out loudly Am glad somebody actually has the common sense to figure out this ridiculous non existent gods, last days and other religious nonsense. Last days? Lol. Wow. Religious people are painfully gullible.......Maybe even stupid.

Wisdom is achieved when one unchains themselves from the shackles of religion and make believe gods. Again, i am proud to be an Atheist.

@ham last days aside, please address the issue in my post #1, if you may Sad



I'd be glad to. Answer is very simple my friend. What's damaging the world is human beings and their complexes about who the better religion is. Religion has caused the most harm and deaths to mankind than diseases and accidents combined. People are different. If people are clubbing and having gay sex, what does it matter to you? Have you heard about a little something called "minding your own business?" . You need to start embracing the live and let live adage. Mind your own business and let people do what they will. As long as what they are doing does not break the law, why do you care? Learn to mind your business and start caring about things that actually help humanity.

Instead of wasting your energy wondering what two consenting gay adult males are doing in the privacy of their bedrooms, perhaps your time might be better spent if you went to feed some hungry kids in the slums. You know, things that really matter at the end of the day. Tangible things that save lives. That's just an example, there are many many many other things that you can do instead of occupying your mind with people that are going clubbing to enjoy their hard earned money or people that are having alcoholic beverages which last time i checked, is legal under the constitution. Focus on stuff that helps humanity, and get out of people's personal business. Comprende? Learn to mind your own business. As long as somebody is not breaking the law, leave them the hell alone and mind your effing business. It's not rocket science, it's really simple.


The fairy tales in your bibles and qurans are really holding you people back. Emancipate yourselves from religion and non existent-gods and see how liberating and empowering that experience is.
masukuma
#22 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:11:50 PM
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I can see this thread has attracted evangelist @hamburglar the atheist fundamentalist.
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hamburglar
#23 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:12:45 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
@Guru and Alphadoti, there is no last days, you guys will die and leave others in this world screaming last days like you or committing sins that you are condemning here.

The last days is when you die, thats what should worry you, don't worry about the rest of the world, they will continue with their business as they are now

Don't too quick to conclude that Shame on you
Even the scientist of today can tell you contrary to what you're saying, they say world will come to an end someday. They say maybe self destruct, maybe retraction-after the current expansion... they have all manner of hypothesis


Ok, even if the world were to somehow end, it wouldn't be because of nakedness on billboards, clubbing or alcohol ads. Lol. Dude, you are unbelievable.
hamburglar
#24 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:14:51 PM
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[quote=masukuma]I can see this thread has attracted evangelist @hamburglar the atheist fundamentalist.[/

Putting evangelist and atheist in the same sentence is an oxymoron. There is nothing fundamentalist about using common sense.
AlphDoti
#25 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:23:57 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
@Guru and Alphadoti, there is no last days, you guys will die and leave others in this world screaming last days like you or committing sins that you are condemning here.

The last days is when you die, thats what should worry you, don't worry about the rest of the world, they will continue with their business as they are now

Don't too quick to conclude that Shame on you
Even the scientist of today can tell you contrary to what you're saying, they say world will come to an end someday. They say maybe self destruct, maybe retraction-after the current expansion... they have all manner of hypothesis

Ok, even if the world were to somehow end, it wouldn't be because of nakedness on billboards, clubbing or alcohol ads. Lol. Dude, you are unbelievable.

@ham, there is a saying that goes "Do not praise yourself before you are praised by the community." It is a warning against arrogance and self-correctness. Even if you are intelligent, you do not need to call others unbelievable; others can see and appreciate your reasoning without your having to boast about it.

Now, if you read the list of hypothesis scientists put across, you'd have noticed one I called "self-destruction". Please explain that, if it does not mean man somehow doing things that turn out to be harmful to its survival. And when we say "world", it may not necessarily mean the earth, but the "people" or inhabitants.

I leave you with another saying: "Pride comes before a fall." This is a warning, for example, to very smart people who are so intoxicated with their intelligence that they disregard other intelligent being, which "signs" can be seen to exist.
guru267
#26 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:28:52 PM
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"In the last days the warnings of all the Messengers will be ridiculed and mocked" - Muhammad (saw)
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#27 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:32:29 PM
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"Those who doubt the final Hour have a veil across their eyes and they will never see the signs unless God wills" - Holy Qur'an
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masukuma
#28 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:35:52 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I can see this thread has attracted evangelist @hamburglar the atheist fundamentalist.


Putting evangelist and atheist in the same sentence is an oxymoron. There is nothing fundamentalist about using common sense.

not really: its because you thing evangelist has one meaning! an evangelist is also someone who talks about something with great enthusiasm (it was a subtle pun)! you can be an atheistic evangelist just like Richard Dawkins is. being a fundamentalist is being intolerant to other belief systems (or lack of belief systems). Insulting religions and religious people. calling them stupid! think about it - if you were the mum to this child,

what kind of hope would you like to be given? that the child is in a better place and that you will meet them some day? or that like a dog they are dead... gone... eaten up by the vulture!
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guru267
#29 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:36:04 PM
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"The desire to reject fundamentalism originates from the pleasures of secularism" - guru267
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Mukiri
#30 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:37:34 PM
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sparkly wrote:
I prefer secularism to fundamentalism.

Your child might tell you this when you try to discipline him/her.

It is a sad reality that 'Amani haiji ila kwa ncha ya upanga'. It doesn't take much to see that there is good and evil out there; these in Christians, Muslims, Atheists or whatever grouping of people.

I believe that it is the evil, and whomever propagates it(whatever you choose to call it/him), that lies to us and points to another as being evil/bad. The atheist will point at religious folk, the Christian to the Muslim and vice versa, all the while time wastes away, tempers flare and people are diverted from what life is all about.

Find your purpose in life and live it.

Proverbs 19:21
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