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Comparison on ROI at Hotel vs Projects vs Stocks
a4architect.com
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:32:22 PM
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Comparison on Return on Investment at Southern Sunshine hotel vs other projects vs stock exchange

The Southern Sunshine Hotel is located along the Southern Bypass in Nairobi, near Thogoto town.

The rooms are being sold at kes 1,740,000 with discount for early buyers as below
http://www.a4architect.c...ass-nairobi-sale-price/

Assuming 70% occupancy rate and kes 1,400 as room charges per night, this will generate a monthly revenue of kes 1,400 x 30 days x 70%=kes 29,400 per month.

This will be kes 29,400 x 12=kes 352,800 per year.

For a cost of kes 1,740,000, the investment will give you a return of kes 352,800 per year. This occupancy rate has the possibility of increasing to 100%, as in the case of hotels currently in the nearby Kikuyu town which have 100% occupancy daily.

This cost per night of kes 1,400 also has the possibility of increasing to kes 5,600 as in the case of the nearby Wida Highway motel.

This represents a return on investment of kes 352,800 devide by kes 1,740,000 x 100%=20.2%.

This return on investment is only for the rental income.

Capital Gains.

The investment is also gaining and appreciating over the years. Property in Kenya generally has a 10 to 20% annual price increase.

Assuming an annual price appreciation of 20% since the land is next to a busy international highway and available land for sale is scarce since most land is owned by Kenya Forest Service/Ngong Forest, PCEA Thogoto teachers college, and Alliance High school, the scarcity of land for sale along the highway will push prices up very fast.

The kes 1,740,000 sale price will appreciate by 20% annually to kes 2,088,000.
This represents a kes 348,000 capital gain per year.

Total return on investment.

The total return on investment of accrued rent plus capital gain will be kes 352,800 from rent plus kes 348,000 from the property appreciation.

This totals to kes 700,800 per year.
In short, a purchaser of a room within the Southern Sunshine hotel will increase in wealth at a rate of kes 700,000 per year.
The total return on investment annually is therefore kes 700,800 devide by kes 1,740,000 x 100%= 40.2%.

Nairobi Stock exchange.

The 5 year average return on investment at the Nairobi stock exchange is 20% according to this report.

http://www.investinginaf...ock-market-performance/

Therefore, the Southern Sunshine hotel investment is a good option compared to investing in the Stock exchange.

Comparison to other Nairobi apartments.

The usual middle class apartments for sale around Nairobi eg Syokimau, Kikuyu, Kitengela etc sell for an average of kes 5.5 million for a 2 bedroomed.
This can fetch a maximum of kes 25,000 to kes 30,000 per month in rent.

This works out as kes 30,000 x12 =kes 360,000 per year.

The return on investment works out as kes 360,000 divide by kes 5,500,000= 6.5%.

If you compare the kes 360,000 annual rent derived from these apartments with the rent accrued from the Southern Sunshine hotel at kes 352,800, its very clear that for 1/3rd the investment, the annual rent is equal.
The kes 1,740,000 investment in the Southern Sunshine hotel is roughly 1/3rd of the kes 5.5million investment in the average middle class apartment.
The kes 352,800 annual rent accrued from the kes 1.7m Southern Sunshine hotel is nearly the same as the kes 5.5m apartment unit.

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sparkly
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:00:14 PM
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Are you saying there are no maintenance costs and overheads for the hotel room?

Also it is impossible to have 100% occupancy.

It is a well documented fact that Stocks are more liquid and have a higher risk-return profile than real estate.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:07:30 PM
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@sparkly, the restaurant/bar rent will go to offset the maintenance costs. The remainder of the cost will be offset from the rental income, on average around 10%. Hotel overheads are
1. labour. This is very low cost in Nairobi.
2. Electricity. Phone/laptop charging plus LCD TV
3. Periodic repair and maintenance.
4. Water. Abundantly available from Kikuyu town council water supply.
5.Insurance, Govt rates, security etc

These costs cant be over 10% of room collection revenue plus bar/restaurant rent.

All the 33 owners will make decision as to offsetting the overhead costs.

In a hotel room, all a customer does is sleep so the running costs are mainly in cleaning the room/bedsheets/floor etc and administration.
The overhead costs are higher in the bar /restaurant which will be rented out to established restauranters.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:41:12 PM
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a4achitect, Could you can organize for a meeting in TOWN for interested parties to listen to your investment idea. Everybody will buy their own drink. It is similar to FEP's Adopt a hotel room + Adopt a classroom.For the middle class the 1 share can be subdivided into 1/2, 1/4 etc etc
We could as well discuss where to start for those of us who want to construct their homes.
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the deal
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:47:38 PM
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@A4 the hotel is a noble idea...simple to clear the confusion...just post the figures here i.e P/L estimates of the hotel...here are my concerns

1. On a given day, month or year...there are rooms which will outperform others...how are you planning to compensate the holders of rooms which dont perform? dont overlook this cos someone might buy a room & the occupancy in that room turns out to be 50% while the rest are 70-90%...

2. You should work with net figures...ebu calculate the returns minus the overheards (10 %) i.e net rental income we see the Internal rate of return...
the deal
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:49:10 PM
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@A4 the hotel is a noble idea...simple to clear the confusion...just post the figures here i.e P/L estimates of the hotel...here are my concerns

1. On a given day, month or year...there are rooms which will outperform others...how are you planning to compensate the holders of rooms which dont perform? dont overlook this cos someone might buy a room & the occupancy in that room turns out to be 50% while the rest are 70-90%...

2. You should work with net figures...ebu calculate the returns minus the overheards (10 %) i.e net rental income we see the Internal rate of return...also what about rental tax at 15-28% of profits?

3. Then there is a small matter of depreciation...I dont think its a good idea to consume all the cash flows like that...

Factor in the above I think the ROI should come to around 16% p.a which is not bad.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:00:00 PM
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@4achtct if it has better returns why are you selling the rooms? who owns the land? if Ali baba decided to destroy his lower room how will wanjiku hold the room above? A mean how does that agreement read "group hotel owned" or represented"so and so owns a room" it's confusing id rather buy the collective ownership as opposed to owning a room.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:57:01 AM
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@BGL, yes i can.Meanwhile, people can discuss further here
http://www.a4architect.c...oint-investment/page/6/

The 1 share can be held by more than 1 individual in the 1/2 or 1/4 fraction. The group of people can register a partnership which will own the 1 share.
Current buyer number 2 on the Southern Sunshine hotel has a similar method of ownership.

@the deal, the room collection is all pooled then all members get an equal share from this based on the occupancy. All rooms are the same so no room is better than the other. This is what happens in similar hotels in South Africa.

Tax will definitely eat onto the profits depending on what KRA/Tax consultants will determine the tax to be.
The general monthly costs are as below

1. electricity kes 30,000
2.Water kes 15,000
3. casual labour/cleaners 2 people kes 20,000
4.Cashier kes 30,000
5.Manager kes 50,000
6. Security kes 15,000
7.toileteries kes 40,000
Insurance kes 5,000
Total kes 195,000 per month.

To ward off depreciation, some ammount can be saved towards day to day renovations,repairs and maintenance, bringing the roi to around 16%.

@brois byka,
Am selling the rooms because they have good returns. My business is to create real estate investments that have good returns then sell them. I also invest in them too.

The land currently is owned by the current people who have contributed.New contributors get to won a share in A for Architect investments ltd which in turn owns the land.

If Alibaba decides to destroy his lower room, wanjiku and all the other 32 members will call for a meeting and ask Alibaba to remedy the defects and if not possible, vote to kick him out by sellling his room then giving him the money as described in the articles of association.
The hotel is collectively owned by all shareholders and each room owner has rules to abide so as to enable all to benefit in the hotel set up, quite similar to the owning of apartment buildings happening all around Nairobi.

Rent from the bar and restaurant at kes 80 per sq ft comes to kes 79,200.
This rent offsets monthly costs to kes 115,800.
This devided by 33=kes 3,500 per month deducted from the kes 29,400.
This works out to 11.9% of earnings going towards catering for the running cost of the hotel.

With increased occupancy, the earnings will increase.

The return on investment minus running cost comes to 17.9% on rent and 37.9% on rent plus capital gain.




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#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:21:06 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@sparkly, the restaurant/bar rent will go to offset the maintenance costs. The remainder of the cost will be offset from the rental income, on average around 10%. Hotel overheads are
1. labour. This is very low cost in Nairobi.
2. Electricity. Phone/laptop charging plus LCD TV
3. Periodic repair and maintenance.
4. Water. Abundantly available from Kikuyu town council water supply.
5.Insurance, Govt rates, security etc

These costs cant be over 10% of room collection revenue plus bar/restaurant rent.

All the 33 owners will make decision as to offsetting the overhead costs.

In a hotel room, all a customer does is sleep so the running costs are mainly in cleaning the room/bedsheets/floor etc and administration.
The overhead costs are higher in the bar /restaurant which will be rented out to established restauranters.

i recently met a friend of mine who owns and runs an hotel in town. he told me this business is not as easy as it appears. on the expenses one can get in expecting those that you have indicated but you would realised several things:
i) staff - they steal from you, they under perform and the good ones will move to better hotels paying more, they will tie you up with labour issues and they can decide to just stop coming to work without notice;
ii) thefts and breakages - this would come from both staff and clients;
iii) upgrading costs - to maintain the look and ambience of the hotel, every three years or so you really need to invest into renovations and upgrade;
iv)marketing - another money guzzler for hotels;
v) licensing and compliance - there are thousands of competence authorities that have their list of things to comply with. some like city council would rock up one day and serve you with a notice to repair floors or repaint the building where such are not necessary and by the time you prove your innocence in court they would be laying in wait with more notices;
vi) the operational costs are almost always underrated.

he said that whereas you may actually see the money come in, a good part of it usually ends up being re-invested in running the business.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:45:27 PM
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@forester, insurance charges, paid annually are usually quite low.
@mkenyan, true, govt fees/charges are numerous and can surely eat into the budget.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 2:19:17 PM
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just talked to UAP insurance. They can insure the building for fire at a cost of kes 72k per year.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:47:54 AM
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Excellent idea there two major hotels in Mombasa running on the same concept and very successful
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#13 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:53:30 AM
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The income figures are based on the assumption of 70%+ occupancy. This would be predicated on a strong, competent, experienced management team who'll be committed to the project for a considerable amount of time (at least 3 yrs). So will we be introduced to this management team prior to investment?
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#14 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 7:02:17 AM
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As an investor, you should ask yourself the most obvious question which you normally do before an ipo. How many rooms are the builders or original owners keeping?
Of course you then need to know about who will manage the hotel, what are its unique selling points. Where does 70% occupancy rate come from in Kikuyu etc? What if occupancy rate is 30%? Is the rental yield on a shared basis or does your room have to be occupied for you to get paid?
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#15 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 8:46:32 AM
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I have looked at this in detail...its a noble idea but what the returns he is promising might only be achieved in the 3rd year of operations...I think occupancy rates will average 30-50% in the first 2 years like most new hotels do then rise to 70% after intense marketing...expect the restraunt to be a poor perfomer during this phase...I think he needs a tax opinion too...KRA's rental tax at 28-30% can knock ROI to 11.8% since its on the Southern bypass KRA is planning to introduce a betterment tax...another tax which could knock off returns....in short the hotel business is tough...
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#16 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 9:47:05 AM
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the deal wrote:
I have looked at this in detail...its a noble idea but what the returns he is promising might only be achieved in the 3rd year of operations...I think occupancy rates will average 30-50% in the first 2 years like most new hotels do then rise to 70% after intense marketing...expect the restraunt to be a poor perfomer during this phase...I think he needs a tax opinion too...KRA's rental tax at 28-30% can knock ROI to 11.8% since its on the Southern bypass KRA is planning to introduce a betterment tax...another tax which could knock off returns....in short the hotel business is tough...



what has not been mentioned is the tax rebates on hotels given by KRA, i think the IDB if im not mistaken is 100% ie you get a 100% tax rebate on the construction cost of the structure, add the other normal Wear and tear deductions and suddenly it begins to make sense
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I am not an expert in property but I feel that county is the way to go for guestrooms. I frequent Nakuru a lot and a clean decent guestroom goes for between 1200-1500 per night. And the places are almost always full and one has to book and pay in advance. There is nothing out of the ordinary in the rooms, just that they are clean and there is ample parking. Am sure the construction costs per room are less than half of the 1.7M. I would be open to invest in a guest room in Nakuru anytime and my ultimate goal is to put up one
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#18 Posted : Saturday, March 01, 2014 10:51:04 AM
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@siringi...thanks. The idea is excellent.

@jmbada...an experienced qualified hotel manager will be employed for the initial period then the shareholders decide on whether to retain or add more managerial positions during the consequent AGM. The restaurant and bar will be let out to independent players hence reducing managerial work to only marketing the hotel and cleaning,cashier,security etc roles.

@mainat..over 80% of the hotel will be sold out. 70% occupancy rate will come from the fact that the hotel sits on a busy international road, southern bypass. Most visitors idealy will be travellers from mombasa/tanzania to uganda/rwanda. A few will be from kenya.
If the hotel has very low occupancy, it transforms into bedsitters. Each owner will be given an equal share from the overall occupancy since all the rooms are the same size.

@the deal..the southern bypass will officially open from february 2015. By then, occupancy rates will be high due to intense online marketing. Kikuyu town is currently doing 100% occupancy for the hotels.
I will consult widely with tax consultants on the tax issue. In South Africa/USA, if the hotel room is taken as a second home, investors dont get taxed.
Returns of 11.8% are still far higher/profitable than for the usual apartments which are around 6 to 7%.

@kizee..true..once we engage tax consultants, we will be able to resolve the taxation issue.

@adrianmwai..true..our next project will be in nakuru/lamu/diani areas. kes 1,200 to kes 1500 gives you a clean room in nakuru. The kes 1,400 projected for southern bypass will surely rise due to the high demand since the location is right next to a busy international road.

We are currently exhausting the best markets and currently southern bypass is the best location due to proximity to nairobi, middle zone for mombasa to uganda travellers etc. After this, Nakuru,Lamu and Diani will be the next best options.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:44:22 PM
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count me in in any Nakuru project
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:15:11 AM
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@adrianmwai..ok. In Nakuru, we are currently in discussion with 2 plot owners, one directly opposite state house nakuru and the other bordering the national park near pipeline. Once they start, i will let you know.
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