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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:bkismat wrote:washiku wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Lol. Mtu Biz. There is also this African American woman pastor who 'preaches' while, well, bosom naked. I listened to one of her sermons one day. Listened because I opened other web pages as she droned on in hers in the background. Her teaching was the typical every day evangelical / charismatic kind - no surprises there. To her it was perfectly logical, to reach the porn addicts - 'don't judge, they need Jesus too'. It dawned on me that others use the same logic to reach the 'musically addicted' - 'don't judge, they need Jesus too'. And so on and so forth.  No need to justify your actions; Porn addicts also need Jesus You got @Muriel there. I wonder whether he is aware you got him Muriel is a she and her I am absolutely aware.  The choice of words I used gave room for maneuvers but there was no other way I could put it. Miserably for me, there is no way to prove the pages I opened I have even forgotten them, but one of them was mashada. Its always common sense to delete browsing history and cookies after visiting porn sites It was a couple of years or so ago ,,,,,,, in another machine ,,,,,,,, So really there is no way I can show. All I remember was I was engaging hard a junelinternational. By the way, I have mellowed since, hopefully. Since one Bloggeratti gave me a 'whopping' I will never forget that made me quit the site. I am now afraid of hurting people ,,,,, you know, the usual dramas in psychology. Anyway, back to the topic.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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I don't see nakedness in the people these fellows claim to emulate. See depicted image of Mary mother of Jesus (peace be upon them)  And of Jesus (peace be upon him)  NOTE: Of course these are not their real photos. Where are the Christians who follow Jesus? Where those who the law and the commandments? Universally, they reject the laws and the commandments. They say they are not bound by the law, that they are living in the grace, as Paul taught them. But Jesus says, they're worthless rubbish, even if they break one of these least commandments, they're not his followers.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:I don't see nakedness in the people these fellows claim to emulate.
See depicted image of Mary mother of Jesus (peace be upon them)
And of Jesus (peace be upon him)
NOTE: Of course these are not their real photos.
Where are the Christians who follow Jesus? Where those who the law and the commandments?
Universally, they reject the laws and the commandments. They say they are not bound by the law, that they are living in the grace, as Paul taught them. But Jesus says, they're worthless rubbish, even if they break one of these least commandments, they're not his followers. Yes sir. Reporting for duty, sir.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I don't see nakedness in the people these fellows claim to emulate.
See depicted image of Mary mother of Jesus (peace be upon them)
And of Jesus (peace be upon him)
NOTE: Of course these are not their real photos.
Where are the Christians who follow Jesus? Where those who the law and the commandments?
Universally, they reject the laws and the commandments. They say they are not bound by the law, that they are living in the grace, as Paul taught them. But Jesus says, they're worthless rubbish, even if they break one of these least commandments, they're not his followers. Yes sir. Reporting for duty, sir. I'm proud of dress code in my culture. Below is the basics of hijab in Islam   And for men, the basic dress code is:   And for beard (I was almost tempted to post mine here)  And Muslim swim wear is   And other sports wear  Additionally, look at the beauty of the dress 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,939
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^^^^^ Swimwear  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/24/2013 Posts: 185 Location: Diaspora
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Just to derail this post kidogo, seeing that @Alphdoti has come in all guns blazing about Islamic attire.
I went to have a swim this past weekend and met a Middle-Eastern family taking their kids to swim. Poor girl was covered from head to toe and the boy was wearing trousers and long-sleeved T-shirt while both were in the pool.
They looked so ridiculous in the 40 degree heat. Every other man, woman and child was in regular swimwear- bikinis, Y-fronts and such.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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There's nothing wrong about worshipping while nude. But there's something wrong about saying that the Christlike wear buggy trousers or long dresses.
Or @AlphDoti showing a picture of Mary the mother of Jesus in 'proper clothes'. It's like riding on a red herring hoping it will take you to heaven or something.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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 All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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each culture has its way of depicting what is acceptable and what is not, in the north of kenya women just walk topless bila shida - its collective. hii ya hawa imepita mipaka ya decency! imagine if you wondered into the church coz u heard pambio moto moto only to find people jumping up and down IN THE NUDE? utakuwa umekwazika sana! even the most primitive people on this planet cover their gonads even if its is by using the koteka! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:each culture has its way of depicting what is acceptable and what is not, in the north of kenya women just walk topless bila shida - its collective. hii ya hawa imepita mipaka ya decency! imagine if you wondered into the church coz u heard pambio moto moto only to find people jumping up and down IN THE NUDE? utakuwa umekwazika sana! even the most primitive people on this planet cover their gonads even if its is by using the koteka! @Masukuma, the nakedness by some members is also a result of collective decisions, and having issues with it because of your other pambio culture is not only normal, but is inadequate ground for saying that these people are no longer decent. The other day people were eating grass and we got angry, despite their proper dressing, and you were worked up. Now others are naked and you're up in arms. It's like everyone should think and do what pleases you. But there's freedom and people should be left to worship and encounter God in their own way. And if we want to engage them then empathy and love and 'truth' must lead.
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