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the astounding time is how we translate in context... Quote:let's meet saa kumi na mbili we are awesome!! this confuses the hell out of foreigners  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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If you think hard, you will find it odd that the first hour of day is in the middle of the night! The clock of the old swahili wazees is more sensible, the first hour starts to lapse soon as the sun comes out. ..there is a clear demarcation of light and dark.
And really there is no sensible explanation why 00:00 is at midnight,..they pulled that one out of their ass...it became a convention that we now follow, just like London's Greenwich is the 0 degree longitude. Why not Tokyo or Machakos?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:If you think hard, you will find it odd that the first hour of day is in the middle of the night! The clock of the old swahili wazees is more sensible, the first hour starts to lapse soon as the sun comes out. ..there is a clear demarcation of light and dark.
And really there is no sensible explanation why 00:00 is at midnight,..they pulled that one out of their ass...it became a convention that we now follow, just like London's Greenwich is the 0 degree longitude. Why not Tokyo or Machakos? indeed - why midnight? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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Is it right to call the language Swahili?? I thought the people are the "Swahili" and the language is called "Kiswahili."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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chepkel wrote:Is it right to call the language Swahili?? I thought the people are the "Swahili" and the language is called "Kiswahili." Kiswahili is Swahili in Swahili  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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masukuma wrote:chepkel wrote:Is it right to call the language Swahili?? I thought the people are the "Swahili" and the language is called "Kiswahili." Kiswahili is Swahili in Swahili You are so right. Just like Kiluhya, Kingereza, Kikamba, Kijaluo and so on and so forth. In English they become, Luhya, Englis, Kamba, Luo na kadhalika. I think Kikuyu is still Kikuyu. Maybe Gikuyu in English.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/28/2013 Posts: 178
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chepkel wrote:Is it right to call the language Swahili?? I thought the people are the "Swahili" and the language is called "Kiswahili." Hey there @Cheps, how are you? You back in the country. You are too quiet of late and its not good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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captain kirk wrote:
Hey there @Cheps, how are you? You back in the country. You are too quiet of late and its not good.
I am fine, Thank you. I show up once in a while Will be back in July for a couple of months.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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quicksand wrote:If you think hard, you will find it odd that the first hour of day is in the middle of the night! The clock of the old swahili wazees is more sensible, the first hour starts to lapse soon as the sun comes out. ..there is a clear demarcation of light and dark.
And really there is no sensible explanation why 00:00 is at midnight,..they pulled that one out of their ass...it became a convention that we now follow, just like London's Greenwich is the 0 degree longitude. Why not Tokyo or Machakos? yeah, makes more sense to demarcate a day the swahili way.but it must have been borrowed from the Arabs as the Jews have a similar method. During Jesus' cruucifixion, it is written that at the ninth hour it suddenly turned dark.ninth hr is saa tisa or three oclock
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Lolest! wrote:quicksand wrote:If you think hard, you will find it odd that the first hour of day is in the middle of the night! The clock of the old swahili wazees is more sensible, the first hour starts to lapse soon as the sun comes out. ..there is a clear demarcation of light and dark.
And really there is no sensible explanation why 00:00 is at midnight,..they pulled that one out of their ass...it became a convention that we now follow, just like London's Greenwich is the 0 degree longitude. Why not Tokyo or Machakos? yeah, makes more sense to demarcate a day the swahili way.but it must have been borrowed from the Arabs as the Jews have a similar method. During Jesus' cruucifixion, it is written that at the ninth hour it suddenly turned dark.ninth hr is saa tisa or three oclock  Because the african is too damn right? We just hv to borrow "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/20/2006 Posts: 75 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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Its not just Swahili, Jews and Arabs. In our local languages, we also transit from one day to the other at sunrise. Eg in Kikuyu we say Thaa Imwe, Thaa Igiri, Thaa Ithatu etc I can do everything through Christ who strengthens me: Phil 4: 13
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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The bible is translated so it is not easy to know the time written in the original scripts. The notion of equal day and night applies in the tropics only. Some countries have less than 3 yrs of daylight during winter. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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chepkel wrote:Is it right to call the language Swahili?? I thought the people are the "Swahili" and the language is called "Kiswahili." You are right. Nairobi's misinformed middle class call it "Swahili" due to TV influence yet they cant even speak the language properly. In the rural areas everybody knows its Kiswahili including the originators at the coast. It all depends on your status. That said, according to the Bible and Quran the day begins in the evening, hence "saa Moja" and ends in the morning hence "saa kumi na mbili". The Jewish and Islamic feasts and festivals follow this pattern. The week begins on Sato hence "juma mosi" and ends Friday hence "ijumaa". Thats why we have sabbaths beginning of fridays in Israel and muslim days of worship. Hope that helps
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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kollabo wrote:chepkel wrote:Is it right to call the language Swahili?? I thought the people are the "Swahili" and the language is called "Kiswahili." You are right. Nairobi's misinformed middle class call it "Swahili" due to TV influence yet they cant even speak the language properly. In the rural areas everybody knows its Kiswahili including the originators at the coast. It all depends on your status. That said, according to the Bible and Quran the day begins in the evening, hence "saa Moja" and ends in the morning hence "saa kumi na mbili". The Jewish and Islamic feasts and festivals follow this pattern. The week begins on Sato hence "juma mosi" and ends Friday hence "ijumaa". Thats why we have sabbaths beginning of fridays in Israel and muslim days of worship. Hope that helps Kiswahili is the Kiswahili word but swahili is the english word for Kiswahili If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:quicksand wrote:If you think hard, you will find it odd that the first hour of day is in the middle of the night! The clock of the old swahili wazees is more sensible, the first hour starts to lapse soon as the sun comes out. ..there is a clear demarcation of light and dark.
And really there is no sensible explanation why 00:00 is at midnight,..they pulled that one out of their ass...it became a convention that we now follow, just like London's Greenwich is the 0 degree longitude. Why not Tokyo or Machakos? yeah, makes more sense to demarcate a day the swahili way.but it must have been borrowed from the Arabs as the Jews have a similar method. During Jesus' cruucifixion, it is written that at the ninth hour it suddenly turned dark.ninth hr is saa tisa or three oclock Because the african is too damn right? We just hv to borrow @Loolest. You should apologize for trying so hard and failingso miserably in implying that Africans are nothing but "borrowers". Apologize!
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