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Ex-wife Winnie left out of Mandela’s will
masukuma
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:53:31 AM
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Mandela left Winnie nothing! it seems the guy could keep a grudge ad infinitum.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:56:25 AM
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Once you divorce your wife and pay the alimony, should your ex-wife still appear in your will?
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#3 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:58:16 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Mandela left Winnie nothing! it seems the guy could keep a grudge ad infinitum.


Its not a grudge, they had divorced..


Do you expect you ex-employer to pay your pension after you retire?
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mawinder
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:04:10 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Mandela left Winnie nothing! it seems the guy could keep a grudge ad infinitum.

He forgave even the wazungus and could not leave anything for Winnie who stood by him till he got the presidency and he decides to leave something for the secondhand wife he took.He is not the good man people think he is.
mnjoro
#5 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:36:17 PM
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mawinder wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Mandela left Winnie nothing! it seems the guy could keep a grudge ad infinitum.

He forgave even the wazungus and could not leave anything for Winnie who stood by him till he got the presidency and he decides to leave something for the secondhand wife he took.He is not the good man people think he is.


Why would she need to be given while their kids were accounted for in the will.She may have stood by him but not while ensuring her JKIA was not making losses.
Kaigangio
#6 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:48:24 PM
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With or without a will Winnie was not entitled to anything. Why?

After the divorce was concluded, all the marital bonds between Mandela and Winnie were legally broken and they became free of each other.

The only evidence that was left to show that the two were once married is only the children whom Mandela as a father was obliged to under matrimonial laws...

Winnie will not do anything and she will not go to anybodys court to challenge that will on why she was not given a share of the estate...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
nakujua
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:58:05 PM
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mnjoro wrote:
mawinder wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Mandela left Winnie nothing! it seems the guy could keep a grudge ad infinitum.

He forgave even the wazungus and could not leave anything for Winnie who stood by him till he got the presidency and he decides to leave something for the secondhand wife he took.He is not the good man people think he is.


Why would she need to be given while their kids were accounted for in the will.She may have stood by him but not while ensuring her JKIA was not making losses.

Just as a good will gesture, the man was not rich - and so the will was more of a gesture.
Intelligentsia
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:20:12 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
With or without a will Winnie was not entitled to anything. Why?

After the divorce was concluded, all the marital bonds between Mandela and Winnie were legally broken and they became free of each other.

The only evidence that was left to show that the two were once married is only the children whom Mandela as a father was obliged to under matrimonial laws...

Winnie will not do anything and she will not go to anybodys court to challenge that will on why she was not given a share of the estate...


Exactment!
She has no absolutely legal basis for any of Madiba's chums. Hii yenyu ni moral argument.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:50:30 PM
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“Media reports that my mother was left out of the will are mischievous and sensationalist. She never attended the reading of the will as she didn’t regard herself as a beneficiary. Why would she expect to be maintained after his passing when she was never maintained during his lifetime? Mama will continue to mourn my father according to traditional protocols whilst holding Mama Graça’s hand throughout this difficult period… Irrespective: no amount of speculation will define the love that is shared by our family even when we disagree on issues from time to time.” Zindzi Mandela

Mandela’s will was read out to his relatives and the media in Jo'burg on Monday. His children, with both Evelyn Mase and Winnie, had R3 million bequeathed to each of them, but had already been given that money in advance and therefore received nothing. Btw Graca's children born from her previous marriage to Samora Machel pia wamepewa kitu. Anyway his estate wasn't really that valuable given his stature in society he didn't care much about material possessions.
sparkly
#10 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:52:30 PM
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mawinder wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Mandela left Winnie nothing! it seems the guy could keep a grudge ad infinitum.

He forgave even the wazungus and could not leave anything for Winnie who stood by him till he got the presidency and he decides to leave something for the secondhand wife he took.He is not the good man people think he is.



Of course you are right, thinking like an African man. An African man can never leave his wife and vice versa.
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