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The likes of MKU,KeMU admits D students!!!!
masukuma
#81 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:15:04 PM
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McReggae wrote:
masukuma wrote:
we also have assumptions that 'universities prepare people for work environments', each work environment must train its people for its process and requirements - don't expect someone else to do it for you.


You must be preparable/trainable my friend!!!!

if they are not fire them! get others! we must move forward.
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Tebes
#82 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:34:40 PM
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We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
masukuma
#83 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:50:09 PM
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Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

what is wrong with 'kenya'? we have some expectations that Lecturers must have been the best in their class - that is what is wrong with kenya. Students having straight 'A's will be taught by whoever can issue instructions. Who said that the brightest people are the best instructors? they are not! so can we stop feeling entitled to things based on our educational performances!! we need all hands on deck!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
jaggernaut
#84 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:02:22 PM
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Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

You should not make such blanket statements. Give examples. What i know is that many institutions are very thorough while recruiting and can even disregard you if you did one of those one year "masters by course work" degrees. The argument being that one cannot supervise 2yr masters by research/thesis students if they never went through one.
urstill1
#85 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:17:21 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

You should not make such blanket statements. Give examples. What i know is that many institutions are very thorough while recruiting and can even disregard you if you did one of those one year "masters by course work" degrees. The argument being that one cannot supervise 2yr masters by research/thesis students if they never went through one.


many institutions ??? No, just a selected few. A pal is teaching a 3rd year course yet he is masters student.
jaggernaut
#86 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:34:21 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

You should not make such blanket statements. Give examples. What i know is that many institutions are very thorough while recruiting and can even disregard you if you did one of those one year "masters by course work" degrees. The argument being that one cannot supervise 2yr masters by research/thesis students if they never went through one.


many institutions ??? No, just a selected few. A pal is teaching a 3rd year course yet he is masters student.

Whaaaat? Where is that? Masters students can ONLY be teaching assistants whereby they assist undergrad students in their practicals or tutorials BUT NOT to teach. Which university is this?

The universal standard is that you can ONLY teach a primary school if you have a form 4 cert, teach sec school when you have a bachelors degree, teach undergraduates when you have a masters, teach masters students when you have a PhD, and supervise PhD students when you are a Prof or senior lecturer. You can never teach people who are at your level, only those a level below you.
urstill1
#87 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:46:54 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

You should not make such blanket statements. Give examples. What i know is that many institutions are very thorough while recruiting and can even disregard you if you did one of those one year "masters by course work" degrees. The argument being that one cannot supervise 2yr masters by research/thesis students if they never went through one.


many institutions ??? No, just a selected few. A pal is teaching a 3rd year course yet he is masters student.

Whaaaat? Where is that? Masters students can ONLY be teaching assistants whereby they assist undergrad students in their practicals or tutorials BUT NOT to teach. Which university is this?


Happens brother. The lecturer teaching the course felt over-loaded. He decided to give his student the 3rd year course. He of course paid him something small.
urstill1
#88 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:48:57 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

You should not make such blanket statements. Give examples. What i know is that many institutions are very thorough while recruiting and can even disregard you if you did one of those one year "masters by course work" degrees. The argument being that one cannot supervise 2yr masters by research/thesis students if they never went through one.


many institutions ??? No, just a selected few. A pal is teaching a 3rd year course yet he is masters student.

Whaaaat? Where is that? Masters students can ONLY be teaching assistants whereby they assist undergrad students in their practicals or tutorials BUT NOT to teach. Which university is this?

The universal standard is that you can ONLY teach a primary school if you have a form 4 cert, teach sec school when you have a bachelors degree, teach undergraduates when you have a masters, teach masters students when you have a PhD, and supervise PhD students when you are a Prof or senior lecturer.


In same institution, there is a madam lecturer who was working on her PhD yet she was teacher masters students. She was bright and "loaded" though.
jaggernaut
#89 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:52:54 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

You should not make such blanket statements. Give examples. What i know is that many institutions are very thorough while recruiting and can even disregard you if you did one of those one year "masters by course work" degrees. The argument being that one cannot supervise 2yr masters by research/thesis students if they never went through one.


many institutions ??? No, just a selected few. A pal is teaching a 3rd year course yet he is masters student.

Whaaaat? Where is that? Masters students can ONLY be teaching assistants whereby they assist undergrad students in their practicals or tutorials BUT NOT to teach. Which university is this?


Happens brother. The lecturer teaching the course felt over-loaded. He decided to give his student the 3rd year course. He of course paid him something small.

This is illegal, period! No wonder employers are complaining about half baked graduates.
jaggernaut
#90 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:56:19 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Tebes wrote:
We have Senior Lecturers with Phd lecturing in Public Universities , teaching students who scored straight As. Them they scored D in KCSE, went abroad for Undergraduate, Masters and Phds came back to teach in Universities which could not admit them. That is Kenya for you.

You should not make such blanket statements. Give examples. What i know is that many institutions are very thorough while recruiting and can even disregard you if you did one of those one year "masters by course work" degrees. The argument being that one cannot supervise 2yr masters by research/thesis students if they never went through one.


many institutions ??? No, just a selected few. A pal is teaching a 3rd year course yet he is masters student.

Whaaaat? Where is that? Masters students can ONLY be teaching assistants whereby they assist undergrad students in their practicals or tutorials BUT NOT to teach. Which university is this?

The universal standard is that you can ONLY teach a primary school if you have a form 4 cert, teach sec school when you have a bachelors degree, teach undergraduates when you have a masters, teach masters students when you have a PhD, and supervise PhD students when you are a Prof or senior lecturer.


In same institution, there is a madam lecturer who was working on her PhD yet she was teacher masters students. She was bright and "loaded" though.

Illegal too. Talk of impunity in universities. She should only teach masters students after getting her PhD! It must have happened on one of those 1st floor private unis on Moi avenue.
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