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Standard gauge railway ground breaking set for this week
Njung'e
#61 Posted : Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:28:58 AM
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There was a lengthy ad on CordTV last evening on this project and hey,wasn't it awesome?. It did address my concerns about wildlife corridors and i think the plan (as seen on the model),is to have the line running on elevations around this area.It's a good thing coming.
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mkeiyd
#62 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2013 8:12:11 AM
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"Since August, the transit time for containers from Mombasa to Kampala and Kigali has dropped from 18 days to five and from 22 days to eight respectively. This is expected to fall further.

The cost of transporting a 20-foot container from Mombasa to Kigali is also expected to drop from $383 to $193, resulting in savings of about $45 million annually.

Also, since all the revenues will be collected at the port of entry, the cost of clearing imported goods and transporting them around the region is also expected to come down.

It is estimated that over 200,000 containers destined for Rwanda and Uganda are cleared annually at the port of Mombasa."


How now?
Where do our journalists get there figures from?
Was there a time a container would take 18days after the Nairobi - Nakuru - Eldoret road was recarpeted?

383$ is equivalent to 33,000 Kes, a 20ft container from Msa to Kigali now? That figure wouldn't get you a similar container from Msa to Nairobi.

200,000 containers destined for Rwanda and Uganda annually? Seriously? 547 containers a day?


Idiotic journalism
Fyatu
#63 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2014 11:13:21 AM
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LINK


What are the implications of this move to the stock??
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murchr
#64 Posted : Sunday, February 02, 2014 5:12:33 PM
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They have Keters in Uganda too http://www.theeastafrica...8/-/syfw03z/-/index.html
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Rankaz13
#65 Posted : Sunday, February 02, 2014 7:08:11 PM
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How the deal was conceived.


The world bank backed out?
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a4architect.com
#66 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 6:58:05 PM
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Uhuruto government needs to relook the railway project critically. It costs much higher than the Nigerian, Ghanaian, Southafrican and Ethiopian rails.
They need to have local kenyan engineers and economists do a feasibility study so that we can all understand the logic behind these high costs. Eng. Kamau and Nduva Muli's explanations to not hold water.


http://www.a4architect.c...hipoia-vs-nigeria-costs/
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jmbada
#67 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 7:23:17 PM
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[quote=a4architect.com]Uhuruto government needs to relook the railway project critically. It costs much higher than the Nigerian, Ghanaian, Southafrican and Ethiopian rails.
They need to have local kenyan engineers and economists do a feasibility study so that we can all understand the logic behind these high costs. Eng. Kamau and Nduva Muli's explanations to not hold water.


http://www.a4architect.c...ipoia-vs-nigeria-costs/[/quote]
There is no problem. All the people who want to do this can offer it for free just like CRBC and get the Govt. to sign off a confidentiality agreement restricting the results of the study to themselves. That's what CRBC did! So just do it. And then, after that, cobble together a project plan and financing to the tune of 327Billion Shillings, with a 4 -year moratorium and then finance the loan repayment at 2% above USD Libor (currently 0.3%), i.e. 2.13% financing. ONCE YOU DO THIS, you can say that you've been passed over by Gava! If you cannot offer this solution (one-stop, holistic) then stop Monday-night Quarterbacking, well after the football game is over!
Fyatu
#68 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 8:26:41 PM
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jmbada wrote:
[quote=a4architect.com]Uhuruto government needs to relook the railway project critically. It costs much higher than the Nigerian, Ghanaian, Southafrican and Ethiopian rails.
They need to have local kenyan engineers and economists do a feasibility study so that we can all understand the logic behind these high costs. Eng. Kamau and Nduva Muli's explanations to not hold water.


http://www.a4architect.c...ipoia-vs-nigeria-costs/[/quote]
There is no problem. All the people who want to do this can offer it for free just like CRBC and get the Govt. to sign off a confidentiality agreement restricting the results of the study to themselves. That's what CRBC did! So just do it. And then, after that, cobble together a project plan and financing to the tune of 327Billion Shillings, with a 4 -year moratorium and then finance the loan repayment at 2% above USD Libor (currently 0.3%), i.e. 2.13% financing. ONCE YOU DO THIS, you can say that you've been passed over by Gava! If you cannot offer this solution (one-stop, holistic) then stop Monday-night Quarterbacking, well after the football game is over!


SGR is long overdue.It will give Kenya a competitive edge as a choice route to Africa's hinterland.Looking at it from a different perspective, once complete, SGR will make it possible for K'ogalo hooligans to depart Nairobi at 8AM on a random Saturday morning and make it for a game against Bandari at 3PM and be back in Nairobi at 11PM. A Ugandan businessman/woman will be able to leave Kampala at 7am and be in Mombasa by 2PM etc. Other CoW(Coalition of the Willing) partners will incur bigger cost to implement SGR for shorter distances as compared to KE. Kenyans should view this project as something of a necessity rather than a luxury if at all we need to maintain the position of East Africa economic powerhouse. Afterall its not only Kenya which has a coastline and has the advantage of bordering landlocked countries. As UK put it in the recent press conference, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda SGR constitutes 20% of China's funding in whole wide Africa, signifying that this is no child's play. Business is all about shrewdness and undercutting your competitors. It is good to note that once Uganda starts producing crude, its GDP will shoot to 50b US dollars. This will be almost double that of Kenya's current GDP of 32 billion US dollars. Tanzania is building a major port at Bagamoyo which has the potential of rendering Mombasa irrelevant. There is also talk of SGR linking its 5 landlocked neighbours, two of them sleeping giants (Zambia & DR Congo). It also has natural gas in which they want to use for electricity production. Barrack Obama was there last year to talk about electricity and gas. China's president was also there to speak about the same and the Bagamoyo port....its all business.....ukisleki utachengwa
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simonkabz
#69 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 9:34:41 PM
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As we blow hot n cold on the SGR, Ethiopia is up on it with all the seriousness it deserves. Will Kenya ever move forward with all these pushing n shoving n endless bickering? With the soon to be launched Outer Ring Road project, someone rush to court and cry foul!!! SMH!
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african coloner
#70 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 11:37:42 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
As we blow hot n cold on the SGR, Ethiopia is up on it with all the seriousness it deserves. Will Kenya ever move forward with all these pushing n shoving n endless bickering? With the soon to be launched Outer Ring Road project, someone rush to court and cry foul!!! SMH!

This railway line should be double track for efficiency and safety. If no,t the tunnels and bridges they will construct should be made in a way that they will be able to accommodate another track in the near future. The SGR is desperately needed but it will be useless for the trains to stop more than ten times just to give way
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