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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:quicksand wrote:I was at Rafikiz last night. It was nearly empty...this was a pub that used to get packed to the rafters and people would park on the green between the roads!
Now let us extrapolate ..
How much revenue did EABL pull in last year? They are going to take a massive hit ....so will KRA tax collection...10 to 15 billion perhaps from KBL alone? Not to mention the drinking establishments. The share will take a small hit as well. Some more domestic borrowing from the gavmint to cover the short fall....Credit will become just a little bit more expensive?
Cascade effect.
Not that I am saying alcoblow should be pulled At K1 and most of the joints at Westie its buiness as usual... Was the parking filled all the way to Parklands police station like it used to be the case? K1...used to be the first stop on Friday after office, now off limits cause cab fare to the house is prohibitive.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/17/2007 Posts: 1,345
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Rankaz13 wrote:Nimeona kwa news jana wamehangaisha watu wa Mlolongo/Msa road, South B na Nbi West sana.  Guess I was lucky. Those were the areas I was operating Friday night mpaka 3.am. Did not see them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Last night they had setup a massive check stop at the Sarit Centre roundabout to Peponi Road. Victims kibao.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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quicksand wrote:I was at Rafikiz last night. It was nearly empty...this was a pub that used to get packed to the rafters and people would park on the green between the roads!
Now let us extrapolate ..
How much revenue did EABL pull in last year? They are going to take a massive hit ....so will KRA tax collection...10 to 15 billion perhaps from KBL alone? Not to mention the drinking establishments. The share will take a small hit as well. Some more domestic borrowing from the gavmint to cover the short fall....Credit will become just a little bit more expensive?
Cascade effect.
Not that I am saying alcoblow should be pulled How many billions is one life lost worth? How much would you pay a family that is orphaned as a result of drank driving to fully compensate them for the loss of their bread winner? How many billions would you pay a guy who shall no longer walk and have to depend on a wheel chair for the rest of his life?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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after parting with 20K last monday;this weekend i was in my local where i staggered to my house safely without the fear of alcoblow If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:quicksand wrote:I was at Rafikiz last night. It was nearly empty...this was a pub that used to get packed to the rafters and people would park on the green between the roads!
Now let us extrapolate ..
How much revenue did EABL pull in last year? They are going to take a massive hit ....so will KRA tax collection...10 to 15 billion perhaps from KBL alone? Not to mention the drinking establishments. The share will take a small hit as well. Some more domestic borrowing from the gavmint to cover the short fall....Credit will become just a little bit more expensive?
Cascade effect.
Not that I am saying alcoblow should be pulled How many billions is one life lost worth? How much would you pay a family that is orphaned as a result of drank driving to fully compensate them for the loss of their bread winner? How many billions would you pay a guy who shall no longer walk and have to depend on a wheel chair for the rest of his life? You can't put a monetary figure to the value of life ...yet strangely we do, and it is usually not worth billions, but just a couple of millions (and that is just for some people). Ask your insurer how much your life insurance cover tops out at, if you have one. See that rider I put in there and highlighted in red? That was to deflate any emotionally charged response, just like the one you have posted. It is touching, but it is also useless. Fait accompli. Alcoblow has happened. Allow me to repeat myself and say I am not advocating for it to be pulled from use, my question is what financial implications will come about from behavioural changes. Divorce yourself momentarily from emotional slingshots and enter the world of cold calculation and policy analysis. Like this: http://personal.lse.ac.u...ing_Bans_2011_01_19.pdf
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:quicksand wrote:I was at Rafikiz last night. It was nearly empty...this was a pub that used to get packed to the rafters and people would park on the green between the roads!
Now let us extrapolate ..
How much revenue did EABL pull in last year? They are going to take a massive hit ....so will KRA tax collection...10 to 15 billion perhaps from KBL alone? Not to mention the drinking establishments. The share will take a small hit as well. Some more domestic borrowing from the gavmint to cover the short fall....Credit will become just a little bit more expensive?
Cascade effect.
Not that I am saying alcoblow should be pulled How many billions is one life lost worth? How much would you pay a family that is orphaned as a result of drank driving to fully compensate them for the loss of their bread winner? How many billions would you pay a guy who shall no longer walk and have to depend on a wheel chair for the rest of his life? You can't put a monetary figure to the value of life ...yet strangely we do, and it is usually not worth billions, but just a couple of millions (and that is just for some people). Ask your insurer how much your life insurance cover tops out at, if you have one. See that rider I put in there and highlighted in red? That was to deflate any emotionally charged response, just like the one you have posted. It is touching, but it is also useless. Fait accompli. Alcoblow has happened. Allow me to repeat myself and say I am not advocating for it to be pulled from use, my question is what financial implications will come about from behavioural changes. Divorce yourself momentarily from emotional slingshots and enter the world of cold calculation and policy analysis. Like this: http://personal.lse.ac.u...ing_Bans_2011_01_19.pdf
 Even the beer manufacturers, them who are supposed to feel them most heat if people stopped drinking, do not advocate for drank driving. Why? Because they look at you, the customer, and attach a life value in you. They would rather you drink 2 bottles every week for the rest of your life than drink 20bottles and die on your second drinking day. You are more valuable to them when you are drinking responsibly. Again, nobody is asking anyone to stop drinking, all they are being told is drink as much as you can, but dont come near the steering wheel. Like @Swenani has done up there.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:quicksand wrote:I was at Rafikiz last night. It was nearly empty...this was a pub that used to get packed to the rafters and people would park on the green between the roads!
Now let us extrapolate ..
How much revenue did EABL pull in last year? They are going to take a massive hit ....so will KRA tax collection...10 to 15 billion perhaps from KBL alone? Not to mention the drinking establishments. The share will take a small hit as well. Some more domestic borrowing from the gavmint to cover the short fall....Credit will become just a little bit more expensive?
Cascade effect.
Not that I am saying alcoblow should be pulled How many billions is one life lost worth? How much would you pay a family that is orphaned as a result of drank driving to fully compensate them for the loss of their bread winner? How many billions would you pay a guy who shall no longer walk and have to depend on a wheel chair for the rest of his life? You can't put a monetary figure to the value of life ...yet strangely we do, and it is usually not worth billions, but just a couple of millions (and that is just for some people). Ask your insurer how much your life insurance cover tops out at, if you have one. See that rider I put in there and highlighted in red? That was to deflate any emotionally charged response, just like the one you have posted. It is touching, but it is also useless. Fait accompli. Alcoblow has happened. Allow me to repeat myself and say I am not advocating for it to be pulled from use, my question is what financial implications will come about from behavioural changes. Divorce yourself momentarily from emotional slingshots and enter the world of cold calculation and policy analysis. Like this: http://personal.lse.ac.u...ing_Bans_2011_01_19.pdf
We are not the same,It depends with the individual some are worth nothing, others a thousands, millions and billions If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:quicksand wrote:I was at Rafikiz last night. It was nearly empty...this was a pub that used to get packed to the rafters and people would park on the green between the roads!
Now let us extrapolate ..
How much revenue did EABL pull in last year? They are going to take a massive hit ....so will KRA tax collection...10 to 15 billion perhaps from KBL alone? Not to mention the drinking establishments. The share will take a small hit as well. Some more domestic borrowing from the gavmint to cover the short fall....Credit will become just a little bit more expensive?
Cascade effect.
Not that I am saying alcoblow should be pulled How many billions is one life lost worth? How much would you pay a family that is orphaned as a result of drank driving to fully compensate them for the loss of their bread winner? How many billions would you pay a guy who shall no longer walk and have to depend on a wheel chair for the rest of his life? You can't put a monetary figure to the value of life ...yet strangely we do, and it is usually not worth billions, but just a couple of millions (and that is just for some people). Ask your insurer how much your life insurance cover tops out at, if you have one. See that rider I put in there and highlighted in red? That was to deflate any emotionally charged response, just like the one you have posted. It is touching, but it is also useless. Fait accompli. Alcoblow has happened. Allow me to repeat myself and say I am not advocating for it to be pulled from use, my question is what financial implications will come about from behavioural changes. Divorce yourself momentarily from emotional slingshots and enter the world of cold calculation and policy analysis. Like this: http://personal.lse.ac.u...ing_Bans_2011_01_19.pdf
The money's lost by the drinking joints establishment will definitely not be thrown into a hole or something. It will find itself in the economy through other means. Either booming businesses over the weekends... It could end up being diverted into salons as husbands give it all to their wives. The soft drinks industries may be the beneficiaries. It is good to conduct a survey of where drinkers will now take their monies and invest there.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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LOL, so youre saying drinkers will now buy sodas? Oh boy....logic is so rare. Anyways, I had an alcoblow free weekend...Friday had the driver drive me, Sato the wife. All good! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:LOL, so youre saying drinkers will now buy sodas?
Oh boy....logic is so rare.
Anyways, I had an alcoblow free weekend...Friday had the driver drive me, Sato the wife. All good! Driver wangu tukikaribia AMREF hapo LA Rd aliniambia eti alionja kidogo, U-turn mara hio hio!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:LOL, so youre saying drinkers will now buy sodas?
Oh boy....logic is so rare.
Anyways, I had an alcoblow free weekend...Friday had the driver drive me, Sato the wife. All good! Driver wangu tukikaribia AMREF hapo LA Rd aliniambia eti alionja kidogo, U-turn mara hio hio!!!! Is he fired?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:LOL, so youre saying drinkers will now buy sodas?
Oh boy....logic is so rare.
Anyways, I had an alcoblow free weekend...Friday had the driver drive me, Sato the wife. All good! Driver wangu tukikaribia AMREF hapo LA Rd aliniambia eti alionja kidogo, U-turn mara hio hio!!!! Is he fired?  Hakuwa na contract, he was just designated, I had to get a chase car to pass that place!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:LOL, so youre saying drinkers will now buy sodas?
Oh boy....logic is so rare.
Anyways, I had an alcoblow free weekend...Friday had the driver drive me, Sato the wife. All good! Driver wangu tukikaribia AMREF hapo LA Rd aliniambia eti alionja kidogo, U-turn mara hio hio!!!! Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Some of these arrests are quite embarrassing. If you get busted, just cooperate, theatrics land you on Prime Time TV - https://www.youtube.com/...ure=youtube_gdata_player
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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But is it legal to have these tests shown on TV. I see a potential court case coming from this... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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poundfoolish wrote:quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:quicksand wrote:I was at Rafikiz last night. It was nearly empty...this was a pub that used to get packed to the rafters and people would park on the green between the roads!
Now let us extrapolate ..
How much revenue did EABL pull in last year? They are going to take a massive hit ....so will KRA tax collection...10 to 15 billion perhaps from KBL alone? Not to mention the drinking establishments. The share will take a small hit as well. Some more domestic borrowing from the gavmint to cover the short fall....Credit will become just a little bit more expensive?
Cascade effect.
Not that I am saying alcoblow should be pulled How many billions is one life lost worth? How much would you pay a family that is orphaned as a result of drank driving to fully compensate them for the loss of their bread winner? How many billions would you pay a guy who shall no longer walk and have to depend on a wheel chair for the rest of his life? You can't put a monetary figure to the value of life ...yet strangely we do, and it is usually not worth billions, but just a couple of millions (and that is just for some people). Ask your insurer how much your life insurance cover tops out at, if you have one. See that rider I put in there and highlighted in red? That was to deflate any emotionally charged response, just like the one you have posted. It is touching, but it is also useless. Fait accompli. Alcoblow has happened. Allow me to repeat myself and say I am not advocating for it to be pulled from use, my question is what financial implications will come about from behavioural changes. Divorce yourself momentarily from emotional slingshots and enter the world of cold calculation and policy analysis. Like this: http://personal.lse.ac.u...ing_Bans_2011_01_19.pdf
The money's lost by the drinking joints establishment will definitely not be thrown into a hole or something. It will find itself in the economy through other means. Either booming businesses over the weekends... It could end up being diverted into salons as husbands give it all to their wives. The soft drinks industries may be the beneficiaries. It is good to conduct a survey of where drinkers will now take their monies and invest there. and most of those places (like most of the salons) evade tax like hell.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,909
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I really enjoy being stopped by this alcoblow guys when driving drunkards. They dont believe you are not drunk so they harass you to blow like 5 times. Then one had the audascity to request my drunk passanger to come out and blow. The fool almost did that.... if you try, you are framed pap! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/19/2012 Posts: 552
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McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:LOL, so youre saying drinkers will now buy sodas?
Oh boy....logic is so rare.
Anyways, I had an alcoblow free weekend...Friday had the driver drive me, Sato the wife. All good! Driver wangu tukikaribia AMREF hapo LA Rd aliniambia eti alionja kidogo, U-turn mara hio hio!!!! Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
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