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platinum credit et al-daylight robbers
pilgrimage
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:10:36 PM
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These shylocks are robbing kenyans in broad daylight.How can they charge over 200% on loans even if the repayment period is long? who registered these thugs? Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
mawinder
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:18:25 PM
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Nothing wrong.It is a contract of willing buyer willing seller basis.Centum has a stake in Platinum credit.
VituVingiSana
#3 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:36:50 AM
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pilgrimage wrote:
These shylocks are robbing kenyans in broad daylight.How can they charge over 200% on loans even if the repayment period is long? who registered these thugs? Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
If they have not forced you (or anyone) to borrow & have disclosed the terms then do not complain AFTER the money is disbursed.
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hisah
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:33:34 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
pilgrimage wrote:
These shylocks are robbing kenyans in broad daylight.How can they charge over 200% on loans even if the repayment period is long? who registered these thugs? Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
If they have not forced you (or anyone) to borrow & have disclosed the terms then do not complain AFTER the money is disbursed.

In legal terms @vvs is telling you that you'll end up in the 'nolle prosequi' box. Terms were disclosed and the client signed the dotted line under no duress. Case dismissed!
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Bachuma Gate
#5 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:23:21 AM
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Hi,

Maybe you need to give us more details to access whether it is clear to the borrower at the point of borrowing that those are the terms.

Is the rate 200%pa or 16.6% pm.

Most Shylocks do 15% to 25% per month.
DOH
maka
#6 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:23:33 PM
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@pilgimage,s wording is wrong i must accept but what is the role of the CBK in such matters...
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premio
#7 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:20:04 PM
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For starters i think they are illegal even banks cant recover interest on loans to amount more than the principle.The best place tp deal with them is the courts they cant win even if you signed the dotted line speaking from experience i took bank to courts and they opted for an out of court settlement.
popi
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:18:18 PM
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Revisiting this issue ... could anyone know under which legal provisions these guys operate?
Kwanini
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:11:57 PM
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if i were a shareholder at platinum i would pay the chief shylock a % commission for every coin above target; unlucky for me the mido glass is half empty below the dotted line
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maka
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:32:09 AM
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Give a man a gun and he can rob a
bank. Give a man a bank and he can
rob the world.
The CBK act doesn't quote shylocking in precise terms but by inference.
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theking
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:19:59 AM
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premio wrote:
For starters i think they are illegal even banks cant recover interest on loans to amount more than the principle.The best place tp deal with them is the courts they cant win even if you signed the dotted line speaking from experience i took bank to courts and they opted for an out of court settlement.


do yourself a favour, get a loan calculator and calculate a mortgage of say 5m @12% for 20years, the total INTEREST you pay is 8,213,033.60. That close to twice the principle
Pierce
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:28:46 AM
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In my view, this is plain and simple. DO NOT GO TO A SYHLOCK.

Use any other cheaper financing options.
maka
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:47:54 AM
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Pierce wrote:
In my view, this is plain and simple. DO NOT GO TO A SYHLOCK.

Use any other cheaper financing options.

Its convenient though...
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#14 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2014 3:38:45 PM
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premio wrote:
For starters i think they are illegal even banks cant recover interest on loans to amount more than the principle.The best place tp deal with them is the courts they cant win even if you signed the dotted line speaking from experience i took bank to courts and they opted for an out of court settlement.


You are referring to non performing loans, where the in duplum rule is used. As long as the loan is performing, the in duplum rule doesn't hold.

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As already stated, the Banking (Amendment) Act introduced section 44A in the Banking Act (Banking Act, cap 488, Laws of Kenya) which is reproduced here. Section 44A Limit on interest recovered on defaulted loans:
"An institution shall be limited in what it may recover with respect to a non performing loan to the maximum amount under subsection (2).The maximum amount referred to in subsection (1) is the sum of the following: the principal owing when the loan becomes non-performing; interest, in accordance with the contract between the debtor and the institution, not exceeding the principal owing when the loan becomes non-performing; and expenses incurred in the recovery of any amounts owed by the debtor."

The above cited two subsections formulate what is known as the in duplum rule. It can be seen from paragraph (b) of subsection (2) that the amount of accrued interest on the loan is restricted to equal the amount of the principal amount owing when the loan becomes non-performing. In effect, therefore, the lender cannot recover at any one given time an amount that is more than double the outstanding principal.
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