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Employment versus Business: Time to take the leap?
sight
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:21:00 AM
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I am at that point where I face a dilemma that I know many here in SK may have been in at some point in their lives.

I hold a managerial position in a corporate. Over the last 1 year or so,I have been doing some groundwork on my side hustle. Now,matters have come to a head because the income and rate of return on the side hustle is not bad and is stable. I rake at least half of my monthly pre-tax salary by working weekends alone. I surpass my monthly gross if I work evenings or nights as well.

I can comfortably project continuous business for the next 3-5 years minimum. There is potential to increase this significantly if I focus on this full time.

As usual,I know this post might attract the persons simonkabz refers to as bonokos. But I know there are mature people here who may have taken this leap and seen the good side and bad side. Would be happy to benefit from your experience and wisdom.

Asante
lexus
#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:53:00 AM
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this is tricky.i know some guy who left his job to work for his business full time after 3 years or so he had to close down his business.so for this i think you will have to consult a financial adviser to be in safe hands.and do a lot of research for good advisers some are not genuine.

work smart
Lyanne
#3 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:17:00 AM
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@ Sight

I was at that point 4 years ago,and believe me it was scary for me. I was working for a Singh when i discovered that if i could lease a few machines similar to what he had i would do even better than him.

I bolted with half the clients and set up a similar business to what he was doing. Nowadays he calls me to give him business and similar contracts. My collegues who used to work there are now under my payroll !

What i know is that the formative years are tough,but you can weather the storm,i used to work 18 HOURS including weekends but it didnt break me.

Plan well,set aside an ammount of money to cover your overheads for atleast 6 months,then dive in,and like i always say swim with the sharks !


The Hedonist
wanyo
#4 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:35:00 AM
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@ sight you are the envy of many

If you have been this for one year and returns are encouraging and putting more time will even increase significanlty,do the maths.

If you find out committing full time - returns are higher than your salo - what sense will it make by continuing with your employment.
If not why not think of getting and training a help-hand.
i too
Pablo
#5 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:02:00 PM
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Started a side husstle 3.5yrs ago which my wife went into. For 2 years i was paying the staff and rent from my pocket. As time went along in noted that 1st half the business would meet its own finances but the second half I had to be called in.

As time went on the business is now making much more than I make in most months.

Now,I smile as I can cleverly expense most of my personal costs (fuel,entertainment etc) to the business. My key issue now is managing cashflows and thats why I keep my job. Hopefully the cashflows will stop fluctuating wildly and I can take the jump off.


Want to be a millionaire.... plant a million cabbages and sell them at a bob...
The General
#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:54:00 PM
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@ Lyanne,

Impressive..

The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
Kwanini
#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:14:00 PM
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Been there. Look at the worst case scenario if u lose your jobbo today,would you go looking for another job or would you dig in to yr bizna headstrong? There lies the truth. [no pun intended]

Its hard serving 2 masters... but if u can.... stick to having tha sidedish until she can truly qualify to be a mistress.... and then.... a second wife ?

If u got Passsion,persistence,and nerves of steel - Go business.. It pays in reaps and bounds. in any case ushaonja asali,mzinga utachonga rahisi.... best offf luck

For i am the master and the captain of my fate !
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sight
#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:03:00 AM
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@Lyanne,@Pablo,@Kwanini - Giving your own experiences is invaluable. Much appreciated. @Lexus,@wanyo - Your thoughts and sobering outlook is noted. @General - I agree. Very inspiring.
Wodu Wakiri
#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:59:00 PM
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Taking the plunge is always a risky affair and the risk is magnified if you have a family to take care of. That said,business can be one of the most fulfilling experience and als very rewarding. If you get it right,you can do in one year what would have taken you 5 years to do.
So,sit down with your wife (she has to be in the picture coz when you start putting in 20 hour days,she's the one who will bear the brunt of an absentee husband!) and work the figures and also the inevitable change in lifestyle.
Strap in and Brace yourself coz biz is not for the faint hearted. I have seen guys starting biashara then at the earliest encounter with a challenge dust up their CVs and start applying for jobs!
One more thing,LUCK. You'll discover that even the best laid plans require an element of luck to succeed.
MaichBlack
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:58:00 AM
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@ Sight - Most ambitious individuals have dreams of setting up a business one day. The problem is that most of them either have no idea on what kind of business to start or don't have the entrepreneurial and management skills required. You have something that is already working and bringing in a steady income. I say plunge in my brother. But have a plan. Set aside enough cash to last the family atleast six months if something goes wrong,work out a business projection and see if addiitonal hours will automatically translate to additional business (and hence additional income),work out additional expenses (office,bills) etc. and then get into it.
Also ask yourself,given your qualifications and experience how easy/hard might it be for you to get a job in future if the situation dictates. The idea here is to never go back to being employed but the realities of life must be taken into consideration - especially if you have a family.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
oblongblong
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:54:00 AM
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That depends on a number of things.


Do you like what you are currently doing? Is the managerial a job that simply brings home the bacon or a career that you enjoy,and has good professional growth prospects? If the latter,I'd say stay on. Particularly if your employer has no beef with your side biz. You would not be the first to do such a thing and if it is as you say,it appears the side biz is doing pretty well and has got great growth potential. If you can advance in your current career,professionally as well as financially,and have the side biz not suffer as a result,well,you should stay on

You mentioned that there is great growth potential for the side biz. Could that be limited by the fact that you are not fully hands on or is it a matter of time. If it requires your full time attention,well then you may want to consider leaving your current job.

Is the side biz the kind of thing that simply makes you money or you like doing what you do? I've a friend who began a side biz in the tents and chairs biz. And it is doing pretty pretty good. But for all intents and purposes,its not the kind of thing he lives for. Plus,he has been able to find some decent fella,pay them well and they provide the daily hands on experience. He has a professional job and he also spends some afternoons improving on his handicap.


My two cents worth,you do not have to quit your job to establish successful businesses. But you will have to pay the price for the options you will take. It may take longer than you hope or your employer may pass you over if he feels your attention is equivocal.

Unfortunately,the intelligent think that everyone else is.Tragically,the obtuse believe they are intelligent.
Mr.Tea
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:06:00 PM
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@Sight,
Everything is a risk including an 8 to 5,even more so that,considering most individuals live a sheltered life. You could hang on to what you have to the end which sometimes comes suddenly and swiftly or become ingenious early. Truth is once bitten by the entrepreneurial bug usually there is no stopping. Take a calculated risk even as you take your baby steps and I will guarantee you,its one experience you will never be rueful about.

Patience Pays in Guaranteed Checks
Patience Pays In Guaranteed Checks.
Tycoon!
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:58:00 PM
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@ sight
while you have asked for advice from mature people...i think i could put in my 2 very young cents.
I am in business and its amazing,well the first few months or year things r THICK. You say that if you worked on it evenings and nights you make more than your gross. There is your answer.
I have seen really tough times in business but now my problem is looking for quality staff and am even opening my second biashara. It is sweet. The sweetest thing about business is the process and seeing your work paying you directly. Quit end of August and see after afew years if you were wrong,i doubt you will be.


IF YOU EVER LOSE,MAKE SURE YOU NEVER LOSE THE LESSON!!
Lyanne
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:34:00 PM
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@ Sight

You have it all here. But what i know is that you really doubt whether you will be able to pull it off and be succesfull.

If you work in the evenings and weekends and still make more than your gross,then you are off to a better start than most of us had.

Like i said earlier,plan,save and get off to a good start.

One day you will rue for not having started earlier.

Good luck !




The Hedonist
ispoa
#15 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2009 5:36:00 AM
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@ sight

I would encourage you all the way. key to your decision should be your motivation factor. I for one had always wanted to do it,had registered a firm but was too scared to take the plunge despite not wanting to turn up to work for someone. I would bring in all the new ideas and my former employer would keep the profits and build their profile.

Finally after a fall out with mgt - due to the slice i would get depsite bringing the pizza to the table,with a six month old baby,other expenses and trying to stay afloat i decided to go it alone and ignore offers that were even better. That has been the best decision of my career thus far. It has not been easy,I have had my fair share of challenges and its been 3.5 years since.

Remember that it is something that you should be in for the long haul,not a 'get rich quick' situation,be dedicated,and prepared to sacrifice quite a bit.

Success should,no WILL follow there after.
Pablo
#16 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 9:11:00 AM
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Just one thot. I dont believe you must have your spouses blessings to make the jump. Ofcourse mention it to them. I know situations where some wife's took off cause mzee has decided to quit job only to be back after a month or so. I also think that for women their husbands could also be a blocking factor to taking the plunge.

How come alot of business success stories start after someone was retrenched??


Want to be a millionaire.... plant a million cabbages and sell them at a bob...
Poggie
#17 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 10:37:00 AM
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Ok,I could not resist the urge to contribute but here is my 2 cents. Having flipped through the turns & twists and experienced the near death sensation of losing a well paying job to learning to stand on my own two feet,I must say this. You will have to de-school yourself! All that mumbo jumbo your parents paid through their noses in the name of education is a load of crap and will probably be your biggest impediment to your success. Learn new tactics e.g identifying problems as opposed to solving problems. Shed your old skin and grow a croc's hide,you will look ugly but you will need it. And mainly,you will realise that it's never being about the money but a lot of other factors play their role. Then like a child,take pleasure in learning and playing in the mud. I could go on and on,but the key is to see yourself in this new light that's when you will attract the blessings that are abundantly around us. Good luck.

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kivairu
#18 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 11:38:00 AM
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Hi sight glad that yours is doing well.i took a chance once and horribly burnt my fingures...had to go back to employment.My problem lay with the dude i hired to run the show,gave him all he needed and as an incentive i promised him a %shareholding if he worked well and made it a viable business.The dude went on on a money misappropriating orgy so much such that the whole thing came crushing down in the first 5months.i was sooo broke at the time.So much in debt.Desperate,i had to take up employment.i'm still smarting from the ordeal 6 months later still paying debts.But i wanna go back,this time more wiser.One quick question....what business is this that's working pretty so well for you?

Fear not says the Lord

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
mtaalam
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:59:00 AM
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Are you serious? You can project 3-5yrs guaranteed business! You should,without a doubt go out into business. If you are guaranteed equivalent of your gross in business in less than a month then you'll have more days to increase your client base and income. Go for it.
Btw what's your profession? I'm quite curious.

ili iwe funzo...
Kwanini
#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:37:28 PM
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@sight, what pray, became of thee,if ask i may?
"For i am the master and the captain of my fate"
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