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The Capital Gains Tax
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#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:59:38 AM
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I see the issue of the re-introduction of the Capital Gains Tax is gathering momentum.
Read: http://www.businessdaily.../-/hk597qz/-/index.html

According to this report http://www.globalpropert...ganda/capital-gains-tax
by the Global Property guide, South Africa charges a CGT OF 40%, while Uganda is at 30% . Nigeria and Ghana charge a CGT of 10%. I think its about time the government sought to widen its tax base and with the gains made at the bourse this year why not pay 2% tax or 0.2% stamp duty. I also think an assertion that CGT will ruin the bull run is flawed.

I had this to say about Capital Gains Tax in my blog : http://themarkettrends.w...x-in-kenya-my-two-cents/
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heri
#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:51:59 AM
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Any treasury insiders, please help us. When is this tax likely to be introduced

Hope we are not caught napping
VituVingiSana
#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:24:40 AM
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The big question re: Capital Gains Tax ... What will be used as the BASIS.

Suppose the Tax is in effect as of 1 Jan 2014. The price of Britam was 12/- and is 18/- today. It was bought at 9/- in 2011.
Will the tax be assessed on Shs 6? [18-12]?
Will it be assessed in Shs 8? [18-9]?
What if one has borrowed money [at 20%] to buy shares therefore the interest cost since 2011 is almost Shs 6 [20% annually x 3 years compounded]?

I fear as is usual with KRA, there will be so many ambiguities that the officers will be out to look for blood [corruption]. There has been no piece of Tax Legislation in Kenya that has been clearly written. The KRA does NOT want clarity since it allows them to impose their own version.
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mlennyma
#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:33:12 AM
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I also wonder who will monitor the millions of transactions when you bought and when you sold and your gains...
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maka
#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:39:13 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
I also wonder who will monitor the millions of transactions when you bought and when you sold and your gains...


That is solely the bourse,s mandate....
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jawgey
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:56:40 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
The big question re: Capital Gains Tax ... What will be used as the BASIS.

Suppose the Tax is in effect as of 1 Jan 2014. The price of Britam was 12/- and is 18/- today. It was bought at 9/- in 2011.
Will the tax be assessed on Shs 6? [18-12]?
Will it be assessed in Shs 8? [18-9]?
What if one has borrowed money [at 20%] to buy shares therefore the interest cost since 2011 is almost Shs 6 [20% annually x 3 years compounded]?

I fear as is usual with KRA, there will be so many ambiguities that the officers will be out to look for blood [corruption]. There has been no piece of Tax Legislation in Kenya that has been clearly written. The KRA does NOT want clarity since it allows them to impose their own version.

I would also want to know how they will treat any losses incurred.
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guru267
#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:57:33 AM
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I thought Rotich made it very clear last year that CGT would not apply to the NSE?!
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hisah
#8 Posted : Friday, August 15, 2014 5:54:03 AM
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guru267 wrote:
I thought Rotich made it very clear last year that CGT would not apply to the NSE?!

CGT for equities is definitely coming. It was part of the ECFs terms fronted by IMF in 2011 as treasury begged for USD float to save KES. NSE demutualization was an ECF item as well as that global VAT change and they've been implemented...

As @vvs points out the issue is how it gets rolled out. KRA won't focus on wanjiku as much, but fund managers/big funds etc will be their honey pot since they hold both large equity and real estate docket...

http://mobile.nation.co....-/11wegbrz/-/index.html

So what happens to REITS?

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#9 Posted : Friday, August 15, 2014 8:23:01 AM
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Might as well declare the NIFC, Kenya Vision 2030 D.O.A i.e Zambia Finance bank looks at listing on Nairobi stock exchange by End of Year http://www.coastweek.com...urg-stock-exchanges.htm

On the flip, the (Zim) ZSE lowered transaction fees recently, 2. has been running mock runs for CSD (CDS) in preparation for automation, 3. proceeded with demutualization too, 4. minimum capital for asset managers has been lowered to USD250K from USD500K.

We can vote.
sparkly
#10 Posted : Friday, August 15, 2014 1:41:31 PM
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Finance Bill 2014 effectively introduces capital gains but in the Oil and Mining industries.

HereIsAWriteUpOnTheSuspendedCGTProvisions
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