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Carbacid setup for a comeback
CASHFLOW202
#21 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:06:09 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
is this correct?

had: 33-34m shares , after split and bonus.
now has 254m shares. ie 33x1.5x5=254m share.

profit for period ended 31st July is. PAT 475m.
eps including dilution and split is. kshs 1.865.

pe at 40.00 shs is 21.5!!!

That is correct
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Aguytrying
#22 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:48:28 PM
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
is this correct?

had: 33-34m shares , after split and bonus.
now has 254m shares. ie 33x1.5x5=254m share.

profit for period ended 31st July is. PAT 475m.
eps including dilution and split is. kshs 1.865.

pe at 40.00 shs is 21.5!!!

That is correct


Then this share is grossly overpriced. 21.5 is selling territory
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Metasploit
#23 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:53:38 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
CASHFLOW202 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
is this correct?

had: 33-34m shares , after split and bonus.
now has 254m shares. ie 33x1.5x5=254m share.

profit for period ended 31st July is. PAT 475m.
eps including dilution and split is. kshs 1.865.

pe at 40.00 shs is 21.5!!!

That is correct


Then this share is grossly overpriced. 21.5 is selling territory


Aguy ..Its always about demand and supply.

Otherwise some shares will be trading at crazy prices

Cashflow..there is a supply of 166K shares at 45.25

If this is cleared,your share will be UP UP.I noted that demand is solid and consistent

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
CASHFLOW202
#24 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:05:24 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
CASHFLOW202 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
is this correct?

had: 33-34m shares , after split and bonus.
now has 254m shares. ie 33x1.5x5=254m share.

profit for period ended 31st July is. PAT 475m.
eps including dilution and split is. kshs 1.865.

pe at 40.00 shs is 21.5!!!

That is correct


Then this share is grossly overpriced. 21.5 is selling territory


Aguy ..Its always about demand and supply.

Otherwise some shares will be trading at crazy prices

Cashflow..there is a supply of 166K shares at 45.25

If this is cleared,your share will be UP UP.I noted that demand is solid and consistent

@metasport you get buddy n if the valuation is at 21 most shares trade twice to thrice their valuation. Last year Carbacid was trading thrice and this looks to continue.
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Horton
#25 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:24:48 PM
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I was screaming carbacid the whole of last year when my purchase price was 135 bob. Dumped at 240. The moats are virtual monopoly and zero debt. However, there half year results were up by 51% what I don't get is the FY only grew by 19%. PE 21, might be too much. Anyways good luck.
CASHFLOW202
#26 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:42:05 PM
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Horton wrote:
I was screaming carbacid the whole of last year when my purchase price was 135 bob. Dumped at 240. The moats are virtual monopoly and zero debt. However, there half year results were up by 51% what I don't get is the FY only grew by 19%. PE 21, might be too much. Anyways good luck.

Finance Income and Equity Gains sweetened the H1 Numbers
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Horton
#27 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:02:40 PM
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@cashflow, lemme break it down.

No debt---Great!
Turnover rose a measly 3% yoy----pathetic!
Eps Kes 1.865
Price 45
PE 24

Just because they gave a bonus, the price spiked to more than double??!? Really!? Good for me to exit!

Where's the value? Their profit has to double this year for it to be worth my time. Yes it's been an excellent run over the years. I have made a lot of chums on this stock for a long time pre-bonus. But now it's over cooked.
mulla
#28 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:40:16 PM
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Agree with you this share is grossly overvalued.....think buyers are looking at price being carbacid but not value....it should be trading at around 20bob
mchambuzi
#29 Posted : Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:15:21 PM
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mulla wrote:
Agree with you this share is grossly overvalued.....think buyers are looking at price being carbacid but not value....it should be trading at around 20bob


Its purely a demand and supply play in my opinion, people are investing it because it is affordable, profitable, has no debts and its growth prospects are good. It might move lower but I doubt it will get to 20, speculative demand might sustain it at higher prices than that valuation.
On a long enough timeline, the life expectancy of everyone drops to zero.
Wondergirl
#30 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:35:07 AM
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:
The Demand well established n supply dwindling. Watch it today. It's bull time.

Cashflow,
Please upload the volumes for yestarday for this thing.
King G
#31 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:54:27 AM
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Speculators who have identified floors of this share, able to risk and volumes without being greedy will make some quid in the next 6 months or so with the price movements of this share.
Thieves
CASHFLOW202
#32 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:35:22 AM
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Wondergirl wrote:
CASHFLOW202 wrote:
The Demand well established n supply dwindling. Watch it today. It's bull time.

Cashflow,
Please upload the volumes for yestarday for this thing.

Yesterday's demand was 234k and supply at 228k
Today's demand is at 84k and supply at 102k at this hour and stil rallying. Will update at 3pm
Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
CASHFLOW202
#33 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:50:14 PM
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:
Wondergirl wrote:
CASHFLOW202 wrote:
The Demand well established n supply dwindling. Watch it today. It's bull time.

Cashflow,
Please upload the volumes for yestarday for this thing.

Yesterday's demand was 234k and supply at 228k
Today's demand is at 84k and supply at 102k at this hour and stil rallying. Will update at 3pm

closing demand is 190k and supply at 164k.
Having my entry point at 41kshs i am loving the trend and already 9% gain in the same day. The skeptics are all wrong.
Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
murchr
#34 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:11:46 PM
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Whats the new number of shares after the bonus and split?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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guru267
#35 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:47:12 PM
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murchr wrote:
Whats the new number of shares after the bonus and split?


254M shares as written in an above post!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
murchr
#36 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 1:41:24 AM
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guru267 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Whats the new number of shares after the bonus and split?


254M shares as written in an above post!


Alright! just seen that
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Aguytrying
#37 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 11:32:54 AM
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@cashflow. demand and supply is not a good investing strategy, read this mumias thread and see how chaps got fried.

http://wazua.co.ke/forum...9229&p=17#post511066
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CASHFLOW202
#38 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 1:16:43 PM
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[quote=Aguytrying]@cashflow. demand and supply is not a good investing strategy, read this mumias thread and see how chaps got fried.

http://wazua.co.ke/forum...229&p=17#post511066[/quote]
I get it. After a bonus and a splits, this is the way to go as most counters rarely adjust their valuation to the correct one. Its usually a multiple like in this carbacid case.watch the price stagnation at the multiple of two today even though the demand slowly builds up.
Monopoly was the industrial age money game and the name of the new game of money today in the information age is CASHFLOW
Metasploit
#39 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 1:44:44 PM
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:
[quote=Aguytrying]@cashflow. demand and supply is not a good investing strategy, read this mumias thread and see how chaps got fried.

http://wazua.co.ke/forum...229&p=17#post511066[/quote]
I get it. After a bonus and a splits, this is the way to go as most counters rarely adjust their valuation to the correct one. Its usually a multiple like in this carbacid case.watch the price stagnation at the multiple of two today even though the demand slowly builds up.


True Aguy.

You use TA tools also.Else you can fall victim to price manipulations..Pump and dump

Entry and exit are very important!And these counters should always be for short term plays

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
Wondergirl
#40 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 10:50:19 PM
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CASHFLOW202 wrote:
Wondergirl wrote:
CASHFLOW202 wrote:
The Demand well established n supply dwindling. Watch it today. It's bull time.

Cashflow,
Please upload the volumes for yestarday for this thing.

Yesterday's demand was 234k and supply at 228k
Today's demand is at 84k and supply at 102k at this hour and stil rallying. Will update at 3pm

cashflow, please post today's volumes

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