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lexx
#31 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 4:50:37 PM
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Stra wrote:
Mine has just crossed the 100k kms. For those who have changed, do you buy the full timing kit including tensioners ama ni belt pekee?



good question

I am following this
seppuku
#32 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 5:09:28 PM
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lexx wrote:
Stra wrote:
Mine has just crossed the 100k kms. For those who have changed, do you buy the full timing kit including tensioners ama ni belt pekee?



good question

I am following this


Full kit. All those components tap out about the same time.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
JkMwatha
#33 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 6:21:40 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Subaru engines are very vulnerable to catastrophic engine failure after timing belt snapping because of the way they are designed i.e interference horizontally opposed boxer engines.
www.nicecarinc.com/faqs/...-subaru-timing-belt.html



Hence some Subarus with H6 engine (eg Outback) have timing chains instead of belts.
jaykay
#34 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 7:54:47 PM
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@JkMwatha: i thought all subaru boxer engines below 2,000cc are non-invasive i.e. if timing belt snaps the engine isn't damaged.However, 2500cc boxer subaru engines aren't the same the belt katikas- toast goes your engine.

On Mileage rule of the the thumb is below 120,000Kms with good maintenance-you'll do fine.The hard part is finding out if maintenance was done.
PEULIAR KENYANS- If you look at Japan Motis, prices drop considerably after 130,000 kms regardless of condition."Bright" Kenyans buy cars on mileage NOT condition.Have you seen the KBX Toyota's that smoke in the jam?Till the buyers get savvier, they keep buying RA Grade "30,000Km" 7 year old cars
JkMwatha
#35 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:49:15 AM
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jaykay wrote:
@JkMwatha: i thought all subaru boxer engines below 2,000cc are non-invasive i.e. if timing belt snaps the engine isn't damaged.However, 2500cc boxer subaru engines aren't the same the belt katikas- toast goes your engine.



I don't know about the smaller engines... as a matter of fact, the H6 I was referring to, is the sweet sounding 245bhp Outback 3.0 R Premier package.
wilyum
#36 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:13:52 AM
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seppuku wrote:
lexx wrote:
Stra wrote:
Mine has just crossed the 100k kms. For those who have changed, do you buy the full timing kit including tensioners ama ni belt pekee?



good question

I am following this


Full kit. All those components tap out about the same time.



good to knw,am almst there too and the price at subaru kenya,wolololo.

@seppuku, where did you buy yours?
AlphDoti
#37 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:52:38 AM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
lexx wrote:
I appreciate your inputs,
at what mileage should the timing belt be changed and at what cost & process

change that damn thing the moment you buy the car and start your service timings from there.

This discussion is very good, but I wonder what advice @Money Whisperer is giving here smile
Are you telling the guy to emphasize the lie tto himself and next owner that the car is now brand new from show room with 0km odometer? I thought you don't need to have brand new odometer in order to know when is next service, just note down current reading x, next service is x+5000km Liar
wilyum
#38 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:20:58 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
seppuku wrote:
lexx wrote:
radio wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
lexx wrote:
I appreciate your inputs,
at what mileage should the timing belt be changed and at what cost & process

change that damn thing the moment you buy the car and start your service timings from there.


Costs?



what would be the cost of doing this? Why would a person opt to rewind the odometer as compared to replacing the belt?


I spent KES 35,000 on my Subaru Impreza, at the dealership. I am sure you will hear different prices for different cars and different repair shops so this should only be indicative.


I think i spent about 3k for a corolla about 3yrs ago. I was in traffic when the old one suddenly snapped and had to call my mechanic who surprisingly turned up with a new timing belt and fitted it on the side of the road.



wewe,hii 3k ni belt pekee yake ama the whole system including tensionsers and gears?
JkMwatha
#39 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:52:44 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
lexx wrote:
I appreciate your inputs,
at what mileage should the timing belt be changed and at what cost & process

change that damn thing the moment you buy the car and start your service timings from there.

This discussion is very good, but I wonder what advice @Money Whisperer is giving here smile
Are you telling the guy to emphasize the lie tto himself and next owner that the car is now brand new from show room with 0km odometer? I thought you don't need to have brand new odometer in order to know when is next service, just note down current reading x, next service is x+5000km Liar


@AlphD, if I'm not wrong I think he means change the timing belt rather than the speedo.
AlphDoti
#40 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:01:53 PM
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JkMwatha wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
lexx wrote:
I appreciate your inputs,
at what mileage should the timing belt be changed and at what cost & process

change that damn thing the moment you buy the car and start your service timings from there.

This discussion is very good, but I wonder what advice @Money Whisperer is giving here smile
Are you telling the guy to emphasize the lie tto himself and next owner that the car is now brand new from show room with 0km odometer? I thought you don't need to have brand new odometer in order to know when is next service, just note down current reading x, next service is x+5000km Liar

@AlphD, if I'm not wrong I think he means change the timing belt rather than the speedo.

Pwaaah it's true, I just re-read his post and surely he was referring to the belt not odo d'oh!
@MW lol smile
lexx
#41 Posted : Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:10:11 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
JkMwatha wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
lexx wrote:
I appreciate your inputs,
at what mileage should the timing belt be changed and at what cost & process

change that damn thing the moment you buy the car and start your service timings from there.

This discussion is very good, but I wonder what advice @Money Whisperer is giving here smile
Are you telling the guy to emphasize the lie tto himself and next owner that the car is now brand new from show room with 0km odometer? I thought you don't need to have brand new odometer in order to know when is next service, just note down current reading x, next service is x+5000km Liar

@AlphD, if I'm not wrong I think he means change the timing belt rather than the speedo.

Pwaaah it's true, I just re-read his post and surely he was referring to the belt not odo d'oh!
@MW lol smile



I meant that,
why would a person go rewinding the odometer in expense of changing the timing belt when the time/ distance is due for the change.
JkMwatha
#42 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2014 1:20:35 PM
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lexx wrote:
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I meant that,
why would a person go rewinding the odometer in expense of changing the timing belt when the time/ distance is due for the change.


Is this meant to be a question ?

If you're asking why rewind the odometer instead of changing the belt....?

For two reasons: -
1. rewinding the odometer is easier, cheaper takes less time

2. Seppuku had answered your question in post #17
Seppuku wrote:
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because that will fool Kenyans into paying more for the car.
the car 'gains' value.

It should also be a crime!
Money Whisperer
#43 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2014 7:53:34 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
lexx wrote:
I appreciate your inputs,
at what mileage should the timing belt be changed and at what cost & process

change that damn thing the moment you buy the car and start your service timings from there.

This discussion is very good, but I wonder what advice @Money Whisperer is giving here smile
Are you telling the guy to emphasize the lie tto himself and next owner that the car is now brand new from show room with 0km odometer? I thought you don't need to have brand new odometer in order to know when is next service, just note down current reading x, next service is x+5000km Liar

Alpha, thats what I meant. change the timing belt and note the odo reading then start timing your services from that baseline
"Money never sleeps"
Odec
#44 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 8:58:44 AM
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premio wrote:
All VVTI engines for Toyota are controlled by oil pressure and solenoids, they are a chain engine. This is good economy wise because the timing varies with the changing operating conditions. Less maintenance because the belt does not need changing, but care must be followed to change the oil at the recommended intervals
EFI premios Carinas Ae110 should be changed every 100000kms other models like mazda nissan mitshubishi ask your local dealer not the polytechnik mechanic



For VVTI just put synthetic oil as those variable timing oil holes are small & small oil clogs can lead to quick overhaul unless u like buying crank bearings & sleeves once ina while
LiVE sIMpLE thiNk BiG
seppuku
#45 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 9:23:12 AM
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wilyum wrote:
seppuku wrote:
lexx wrote:
Stra wrote:
Mine has just crossed the 100k kms. For those who have changed, do you buy the full timing kit including tensioners ama ni belt pekee?



good question

I am following this


Full kit. All those components tap out about the same time.



good to knw,am almst there too and the price at subaru kenya,wolololo.

@seppuku, where did you buy yours?


Right there, Subaru Kenya.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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