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chris79
#41 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:39:00 PM
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@Djinn,what's with the anti-safcon stance. Did they steal your goat?

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Riddler
#42 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:29:00 AM
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MJ of Safcom advert in the dailies confirmed that they are already connected to the Seacom cable. However we are still not getting broadband on Ngong road.
VituVingiSana
#43 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:07:00 AM
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It will take another 4 weeks (1 Sep) to get better speeds for all. KDN,safcon,Access are all testing the cable. Connecting. And all that jazz. Some areas are getting better speeds since they are home to safcon execs,big clients,govt officials... the rest of us will have to wait. _____ If you are waiting for lower charges... utangoja... till 2010.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
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Djinn
#44 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:15:00 AM
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thus confirming my input - yay!

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muganda
#45 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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@Djinn and @wa P

I agree with you guys Safaricom nees to get much more serious and emulate other Kenyan companies:

1. I remember with nostalgia when KP&T use to provide good mobile service to 25,000 guys in few areas of Nairobi only and installed phone booths,one per location,to allow us to talk to our relatives
2. Look at how friendly Nairobi Water answer customer service when you inquire why there's been no water for the whole weekend
3. Or how quickly KPLC restores connection every time there's a unexpected blackout
4. And how well KQ keep their word [on-time departures] these days,72% of the time last month

Safaricom should aspire to be:
5. as inclusive as Equity with her large customer base of 3.5 million customers
6. more like EABL our largest corporate by capitalisation that pays tribute to our recreation
7. contribute as much as Nakumatt and our other large taxpayers for development
8. at a minimum,as innovative as the banking industry in banking our poor

9. Or as reliable as UUNET,AccessKenya,Africa Online,Wananchi et all in their 10 year quest to connect us to the wired world
10. Or as empowering and transparent as KQ when shares were floated in 1996 at 11.25/= and brought a staggering 110,000 people to NSE.

IF ONLY WE GAVE ALL COMPANIES IN KENYA AS HAD A RAP,WE WOULD ACHIEVE VISION 2030 MUCH FASTER.

tusker8
#46 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:22:00 AM
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@Djinn. Truth well told. Very well told.
There is a lot of misconception about this under-sea fiber project. The actual cable does transmit date/voice/video fast but what if you still have an old school comp/server/router...you shan't be able to experience this new wave. The ISp one uses too matter. they are known to 'choke' the bandwidth so they can sell alot less bandwidth to more people. And,these benefit everyone is talking about won't really come soon. prices won't go down as envisaged. The telcos industry requires heavy investments and is currently the fastest growing industry...what they will be doing in the next few years is re-investing onto their networks/infrastructure and/or re-couping their investments. Most of these guys have invested billions in TEAMs/EASSY/SEACOMM.
Additionally,and with confidence i know KDN is the only company that 'sambazaing' seacomm within the country. They are duly connected as of now. Acces K. and SafCom has tapped into their network to get the connection. Mark you,safcoms base stations,most of them,are connected by KDNs fiber - that why there is little congestion nowadays and that how they were able to launch 3G and now broadband.

Asanteni.

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Riddler
#47 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:05:00 AM
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Good news? Orange is launching 3G tomorrow. Anyone with more news?
The General
#48 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:24:00 AM
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@ Djinn,@ Wa P,ROTFLMAO

@ Muganda, spot on

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Djinn
#49 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:29:00 PM
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@Chris - the Orange person says 'we are using the predecessor of 3G which is EDGE and is also much faster' - NOPE! EDGE came BEFORE 3G and is 2.5G (like CDMA) but is not faster than 3G (HSDPA) Your Orange guy is wrong....or being patronising.

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subzero
#50 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:34:00 PM
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So far,no one has convinced me that they are enjoying the benefits of the fibre cable yet.

tusker8,.. where did you get the info that KDN is offering fibre connection thro seacom yet? i've just spoken to someone from KDN,they say EARLIEST connection is next week. The are stilll doing some configurations plus also connecting to some equipment in SA. Plus i here there equipment that hasn't landed at KDN sites yet. Customers are lined up at KDN offices asking why they are not on Seacom yet.

People,please don't confuse between fibre connection within the country,(that has been there for a while) and fibre connection to the outside world
Please dont confuse between high speeds connecting to local content (e.g. stockskenya.com) and accessing international servers. Please see the post by Djinn
For example,i ping KDN at a crazy 50 Mb/s but international servers for a something like 5Mb/s or even less than 1Mb/s . see the links below.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/527705117.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/528675376.png

I have also heard that at the moment. safcom is not directly using KDN to connect to seacom. KDN is only providing the infrastructure but not their network. Thus,they are able to connect to seacom. they are not experiencing the delays that KDN is experiencing.
kyt
#51 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:53:00 PM
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i am on safaricom and my speeds have trippled so i can comfortably say i am doing ok download is 1.34mb upload 0.45mb so am not doing bad am i?

hasta la vista
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Riddler
#52 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2009 5:23:00 AM
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Sorry all...I was wrong....Orange has not launched 3G but has launched 3G+ internet. Speeds of up to 3.1MBPS.
kizee
#53 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2009 6:22:00 AM
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so 3g+ is faster than 3g?....click on this link

http://www.business.oran...e&cid=1044133173948
subzero
#54 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:11:00 PM
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FYI,to all who thought KDN was live on seacom.

KDN went live on seacom,yesterday August 1st 2009,since i know they haven't connected all clients,you can go and ask them for the bandwidth now.
VituVingiSana
#55 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 5:34:00 AM
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Has anyone used 3G+ being touted by Orange Kenya?

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Riddler
#56 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 6:34:00 AM
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@ VituVingiSana
I went to the Orange offices on Penoni Road on Saturday. The first thing I did was to check our speedtest.net on the modem.
The attendant told me that they were not yet connected to the under sea fibre after it posted speeds of 256kbps.

muganda
#57 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 7:16:00 AM
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@Riddler DITTO

Did exactly exactly the same thing,on exactly the same day,and got exactly the same result. Didn't have the conversation with the guys though - no need for too much talk.

Adverts can be very misleading '3G+ on CDMA network with coverage in all major towns'. Seeing is believing - nothing short of that.
ptor
#58 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 2:03:00 PM
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Look at below pings after connections check milliseconds it takes to ping www.yahoo.com

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
ping www.yahoo.com

Pinging www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=196ms TTL=56
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=56
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=196ms TTL=56
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=194ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 87.248.113.14:
Packets: Sent = 4,Received = 4,Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 194ms,Maximum = 196ms,Average = 195ms

Before connection to seacom

Pinging www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [69.147.76.15] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 69.147.76.15: bytes=32 time=695ms TTL=52

Reply from 69.147.76.15: bytes=32 time=696ms TTL=52

Reply from 69.147.76.15: bytes=32 time=695ms TTL=52

Reply from 69.147.76.15: bytes=32 time=693ms TTL=52



Ping statistics for 69.147.76.15:

Packets: Sent = 4,Received = 4,Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 693ms,Maximum = 696ms,Average = 6



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ji
#59 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:59:00 PM
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From my legacy ADSL Livebox during busy hour,I have the results below,so if your average is 600ms and you're think you are on 3G,gimme a break! They'll be no (real) 3G in Kenya maybe till October.

Pinging yahoo.com [209.191.93.53] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.191.93.53: bytes=32 time=1151ms TTL=48
Reply from 209.191.93.53: bytes=32 time=921ms TTL=48
Reply from 209.191.93.53: bytes=32 time=843ms TTL=48
Reply from 209.191.93.53: bytes=32 time=764ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 209.191.93.53:
Packets: Sent = 4,Received = 4,Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 764ms,Maximum = 1151ms,Average = 919ms



'I never see what has been done; I only see what remains to be done.'



JkMwatha
#60 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:07:00 PM
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...WTF
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