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Private Schools scamming the system to come tops!
King G
#61 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:07:08 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


Applause Applause Applause


I agree with Chepkel until the point she tries to dismiss all the A student......some of us got all the clean A's huko gishagi with all the play and fun.


Boss is Many = all Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
Thieves
McReggae
#62 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:15:46 AM
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King G wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


Applause Applause Applause


I agree with Chepkel until the point she tries to dismiss all the A student......some of us got all the clean A's huko gishagi with all the play and fun.


Boss is Many = all Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Ok, I also refute 'many'......it should be some A students, I have seen most of them do well!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
mukiha
#63 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:33:58 AM
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chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


What was Mandela's degree in? What did he score in his "METRIC" - the SA version of KCSE?

What about Mother Teresa?

Success in life is not just about school grades. Neither is it just about how much money you can accumulate - remember that "money is worthless unless you spend it"!!
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Swenani
#64 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:36:22 AM
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mukiha wrote:
chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


What was Mandela's degree in? What did he score in his "METRIC" - the SA version of KCSE?

What about Mother Teresa?

Success in life is not just about school grades. Neither is it just about how much money you can accumulate - remember that "money is worthless unless you spend it"!!



Success is how much wealth you have...Anything else you are a FAILURE
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
mukiha
#65 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:54:35 AM
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Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#66 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:01:11 AM
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Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
McReggae
#67 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:05:41 AM
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@Mukiha, iko nini? Has somebody hacked into your comp? What with the multiple responses???
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
CLK
#68 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:17:35 AM
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sky5 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
^^^You mean there is no wazuan with a kid at makini or knows the fees? Kwani all wazua kids go to public schools?


Heheheh, so kama si ni makini basi ni public, mimi najua ya Braeburn!!!


The fees is around 45K, but there extras.

Ati 45k? unless ni baby class, even Riara charges way mor ethan that transport alone is more than that 45k.

That said i honestly do not see anything wrong with these schools, its a willing buyer willing seller situation, if the government did its job perfectly we would not have private schools at all, but someone has seen a gap and is minting money out of it, some parents take their kids there because they can afford it and its a class thing, you do not expect someone who earns a milli a month to take his child to nyakemincha primary school for whatever reason, they want the best for their children and they can afford it, let them be. One thing i however know is that if a kid is smart, he is smart, na kama ni danda, hata umpeleke wapi, bado ni danda, the only thing these schools afford them is some level of confidence which gives them an upper hand in any setting compared to those from public schools.
mukiha
#69 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:17:55 AM
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Swenani wrote:
mukiha wrote:
chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


What was Mandela's degree in? What did he score in his "METRIC" - the SA version of KCSE?

What about Mother Teresa?

Success in life is not just about school grades. Neither is it just about how much money you can accumulate - remember that "money is worthless unless you spend it"!!



Success is how much wealth you have...Anything else you are a FAILURE


So you'd say Bill Gates has attained more success than Mother Teresa; or Mandela?

BTW Wealth is worthless until you sell it; and the money you'll get in exchange is worthless until you spend it! Vicious cycle, a chasing after the wind.

Success is not what you do for yourself, but what you do for others.... but I digress...


Any school that advertises it's results cannot be a good school! If it is so good at educating children, the word of mouth reputation should be enough marketing. That's how places like Msingi Bora and St Bakhita (south B) fill up two years in advance. And you will never see them advertising in the mass media.

Quality education is a long term thing. The REAL results are seen many years after the students have graduated. Look how long it took for Starehe to make it's mark...and i wonder why the government hasn't seen the logic of managing other schools along the Starehe model of a Director and a Principal as two separate offices.....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
chepkel
#70 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:49:02 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


Applause Applause Applause


I agree with Chepkel until the point she tries to dismiss all the A student......some of us got all the clean A's huko gishagi with all the play and fun.


Dude!! I said Many not All!!
McReggae
#71 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:51:13 AM
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chepkel wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


Applause Applause Applause


I agree with Chepkel until the point she tries to dismiss all the A student......some of us got all the clean A's huko gishagi with all the play and fun.


Dude!! I said Many not All!!


I have collected and said 'Some' not 'Many'!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
kysse
#72 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:19:46 PM
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sky5 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
^^^You mean there is no wazuan with a kid at makini or knows the fees? Kwani all wazua kids go to public schools?


Heheheh, so kama si ni makini basi ni public, mimi najua ya Braeburn!!!


The fees is around 45K, but there extras.


45k must be tuition fees only cz that's the aprx figure paid in other private schools.

Makini now sounds to like a primary baking school.I prefer a more competitive school where a student earns marks fairly.
Just bring home your 200 marks earned through sweat.We will work on that.
It's very annoying to see parents celebrate 'fake marks' when they very well know that their kid is not intellectualy gifted,makes me pity the child cz he/she will struggle in high school.

The best way to beat this is to do away with fake rankings.
CLK
#73 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:34:46 PM
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McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Swenani wrote:
sky5 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
^^^You mean there is no wazuan with a kid at makini or knows the fees? Kwani all wazua kids go to public schools?


Heheheh, so kama si ni makini basi ni public, mimi najua ya Braeburn!!!


The fees is around 45K, but there extras.

Per term?Thats too cheap thought it was around 150K per term.Anyway sina class going ama kindergarten kid

ION, Did you know that Msingi bora kindergarten is fully booked to 2015.If you have a kid and you wish to have them join in 2016 or 2017 book now


Msingi bora you book immediately madam is pregnant!

Where is this Msingi Bora and what is the fee like?


Iko Denis Prit, fees I'm not sure!!!!


Not anymore, they relocated to somewhere in Karen, someone put up Kiota School at the former premises.

mawinder
#74 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:57:54 PM
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I will follow @Impunity's advice,watoto waende ushago where they will learn to fetch firewood,swim in rivers,mould using clay,fight while herding cattle,cook,make their own toys unlike the middle class syndrome kids dropped to school in Riara by their mothers in Volkswagon Tiguan and whose idea of playing is to go to Valley Arcade and pay for bouncing castle.When they grow up the girls cannot cook and buy cooked from supermarkets.
Swenani
#75 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:11:29 PM
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mukiha wrote:
Swenani wrote:
mukiha wrote:
chepkel wrote:
All this hullabaloo about top performing student/schools/bla bla is all crap to me. We put too much pressure on our children to have perfect grades and forget about what education should be about. I thank God for my parents because my siblings and I were never pressured to simply bring in good grades at whatever cost. We were taught about the value of education, learning and becoming a holistic person. Its not just about books and being number 1. Thats why many straight A students get to University and are overwhelmed by life and everything. This is because he or she always had someone standing looking over his shoulder telling them what to and drilling stuff into their minds.
I went to Limuru Girls School and we had the best girl in Central Province with us but she barely managed to get a C in the fina year examination. She could not handle the responsibility of studying and learning on her own. It is such a shame.
A good school should teach a child how to be responsible, respectful, ambitious and hard working at all levels. In deed you can achieve anything if your put your heart and soul into it. Sports, Drama, Music and whatever.
My daughter just joined class 1 this year. I made sure that I took her to a school that does not condone holiday tuition or any kind of drilling and encourages extra curriculum activities. Saturday, sunday and any other holiday is for me and her not for books and school. As much as good grades are important, we all know that this world is led by people who were not the best of the best but worked hard in achieving their dreams. Angalia akina Bill Gates, Richard Branson and so on.


What was Mandela's degree in? What did he score in his "METRIC" - the SA version of KCSE?

What about Mother Teresa?

Success in life is not just about school grades. Neither is it just about how much money you can accumulate - remember that "money is worthless unless you spend it"!!



Success is how much wealth you have...Anything else you are a FAILURE


So you'd say Bill Gates has attained more success than Mother Teresa; or Mandela?

BTW Wealth is worthless until you sell it; and the money you'll get in exchange is worthless until you spend it! Vicious cycle, a chasing after the wind.

Success is not what you do for yourself, but what you do for others.... but I digress...


Any school that advertises it's results cannot be a good school! If it is so good at educating children, the word of mouth reputation should be enough marketing. That's how places like Msingi Bora and St Bakhita (south B) fill up two years in advance. And you will never see them advertising in the mass media.

Quality education is a long term thing. The REAL results are seen many years after the students have graduated. Look how long it took for Starehe to make it's mark...and i wonder why the government hasn't seen the logic of managing other schools along the Starehe model of a Director and a Principal as two separate offices.....


Yes 100%
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Shak
#76 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:07:01 PM
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these private schools that double register should be sued under a civil action law school. This just smells of discrimination and inequitable treatment which goes against the spirit of our constitution. I'm sure a good lawyer can help win such a case and stop this practice for good.
Swenani
#77 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:55:13 AM
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Shak wrote:
these private schools that double register should be sued under a civil action law school. This just smells of discrimination and inequitable treatment which goes against the spirit of our constitution. I'm sure a good lawyer can help win such a case and stop this practice for good.


Which law is that?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
McReggae
#78 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:58:49 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Shak wrote:
these private schools that double register should be sued under a civil action law school. This just smells of discrimination and inequitable treatment which goes against the spirit of our constitution. I'm sure a good lawyer can help win such a case and stop this practice for good.


Which law is that?


...and where is the double register?
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