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AFRICAN...Endangered Species??
Zanze
#41 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 6:50:58 AM
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murchr wrote:
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Nabwire wrote:
Know your history people. Sadly the people who will be most affected, will not bother knowing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eWxCRReTV4


That video is so long. I found the information interesting until they got to Planned Parenthood and abortions. What exactly is the goal of making the documentary and who funded it. I haven't looked at the credits but I am sure there are some anti-abortion groups behind it (in addition to black groups of course).


Listen to the whole of it then pass a judgement.


I'll continue with it tomorrow then I'll pass judgement. So far to me it appears to be more of a pro-life video. Not sure if the other ladies here have watched it yet but I'd like to know what they think.
Nabwire
#42 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:13:46 AM
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Zanze wrote:
murchr wrote:
Zanze wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
Know your history people. Sadly the people who will be most affected, will not bother knowing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eWxCRReTV4


That video is so long. I found the information interesting until they got to Planned Parenthood and abortions. What exactly is the goal of making the documentary and who funded it. I haven't looked at the credits but I am sure there are some anti-abortion groups behind it (in addition to black groups of course).


Listen to the whole of it then pass a judgement.


I'll continue with it tomorrow then I'll pass judgement. So far to me it appears to be more of a pro-life video. Not sure if the other ladies here have watched it yet but I'd like to know what they think.


I swear some people cant be helped!! I am a woman and I can tell you this is not about pro-choice or pro-life. I must say Africans are very easy to fool, people never really ask questions, they just take positions because a "prominent" person is of that position. This is an ongoing holocaust, forget the nonsense you have been indoctrinated with that a woman should be allowed to choose whether she wants an abortion or not, that's gimmicky marketing, they should phrase the question in its true sense, a woman should be allowed to decide whether she wants to kill an innocent defenseless baby or not!! But I digress, this video is about the ongoing holocaust of our times, please keep in mind that blacks make less than 20% of US population, yet they account for the most abortion recipients with clinics placed conveniently in black ghettoes. You can hardly find a grocery store in the black ghettoes, but abortion clinics, liquor stores and fast food joints are readily available. People need to wake up. I like talking to white people, especially the white middle to poor class, you'd be amazed how much they are stocking up with food, water, medicine and emergency survival kits, coz they know that once "the coloreds" are eliminated, they are next on the chopping block. But blacks, especially Africans, watu wamechill tu!! That's why I believe God really does live in Africa. I thank God for the education I have gotten from US institutions, but forget financial gain, I'm about to go into small scale subsistence farming, as should everyone, because this shit is about to hit the roof!
Nabwire
#43 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:19:33 AM
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I just like how the first response after Hurricane Katrina, was for the Rockefellers to make huge donations for birth control use. How interesting, after a flood what do people need the most? Um, birth control!!
murchr
#44 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:33:48 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
I just like how the first response after Hurricane Katrina, was for the Rockefellers to make huge donations for birth control use. How interesting, after a flood what do people need the most? Um, birth control!!


Even the time taken by the govt to respond was quite telling. I've always wondered why the person who planted the Georgia guide stones did so and why he insisted for there to be a 500 million population target (population reduction) then he disappeared. Surprisingly this is in tandem with UN's Agenda 21

As you farm, Monsato will make sure your efforts bear no fruit.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Nabwire
#45 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:53:05 AM
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murchr wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
I just like how the first response after Hurricane Katrina, was for the Rockefellers to make huge donations for birth control use. How interesting, after a flood what do people need the most? Um, birth control!!


Even the time taken by the govt to respond was quite telling. I've always wondered why the person who planted the Georgia guide stones did so and why he insisted for there to be a 500 million population target (population reduction) then he disappeared. Surprisingly this is in tandem with UN's Agenda 21

As you farm, Monsato will make sure your efforts bear no fruit.


Nakwambia a lot of stuff just gives you shivers, 500 million world population, fanya hesabu ya watu wangapi wanafa wauliwe to achieve that!!
For farming, I don't know much about it but I know the minute you accept those GMO crops, you're doomed!! African farmers should be educated on what GMO seeds really entail, and absolutely refuse to take the seeds, if this is done large scale, you can beat Monsanto at its own game. Because once Africans become dependent on their seeds, game over!! Famine in Somalia will look like child's play!
kiterunner
#46 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:43:11 AM
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If only the media and African scholars would investigate and inform the public on what goes on in the real world, may be we would be more informed. Instead it is Mexican soap operas and sonkos that fill the airtime while scholars just read notes to undergraduates or consult for these NGOs like Gates Foundation, Population council, Marie Stoppes, Family Health International ... etc

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#47 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:23:17 AM
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People are empty inside and looking for anything to fill that void and the frustration it brings.Unless people put down their 'pacifiers' and start relating on that level,we'll still destroy ourselves.
tycho
#48 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:34:52 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
murchr wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
I just like how the first response after Hurricane Katrina, was for the Rockefellers to make huge donations for birth control use. How interesting, after a flood what do people need the most? Um, birth control!!


Even the time taken by the govt to respond was quite telling. I've always wondered why the person who planted the Georgia guide stones did so and why he insisted for there to be a 500 million population target (population reduction) then he disappeared. Surprisingly this is in tandem with UN's Agenda 21

As you farm, Monsato will make sure your efforts bear no fruit.


Nakwambia a lot of stuff just gives you shivers, 500 million world population, fanya hesabu ya watu wangapi wanafa wauliwe to achieve that!!
For farming, I don't know much about it but I know the minute you accept those GMO crops, you're doomed!! African farmers should be educated on what GMO seeds really entail, and absolutely refuse to take the seeds, if this is done large scale, you can beat Monsanto at its own game. Because once Africans become dependent on their seeds, game over!! Famine in Somalia will look like child's play!


So far, the 'black' non African living in the African continent seems to be unable to think and create resources for himself. Political leadership is at its worst, and you wonder how things will be.

But then even Monsanto etc. can't be foolproof. Not when a Snowden can come up. I am optimistic.
Nabwire
#49 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 6:52:49 PM
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kiterunner wrote:
If only the media and African scholars would investigate and inform the public on what goes on in the real world, may be we would be more informed. Instead it is Mexican soap operas and sonkos that fill the airtime while scholars just read notes to undergraduates or consult for these NGOs like Gates Foundation, Population council, Marie Stoppes, Family Health International ... etc



That is no longer an excuse, with the advent of the internet information is at your finger tips. Unless if you tell me Youtube and Google in Kenya don't supply the same content. Its not like this information is circulated on American news channels, trust me the American media is ten times worse than the Kenyan one, they all show one side of the story, that's because they are all owned by one family!
murchr
#50 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:06:28 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
If only the media and African scholars would investigate and inform the public on what goes on in the real world, may be we would be more informed. Instead it is Mexican soap operas and sonkos that fill the airtime while scholars just read notes to undergraduates or consult for these NGOs like Gates Foundation, Population council, Marie Stoppes, Family Health International ... etc



That is no longer an excuse, with the advent of the internet information is at your finger tips. Unless if you tell me Youtube and Google in Kenya don't supply the same content. Its not like this information is circulated on American news channels, trust me the American media is ten times worse than the Kenyan one, they all show one side of the story, that's because they are all owned by one family!


Women demonstrated in the street about the ARVs that are turning them infertile and there was no further follow up on the story by our so called "journalists" ...Some botanist comes up with some herbs that are potential cures of diseases killing man but hey that will never make it to the news. They ridiculed babu (the tz man) instead of trying to know what is in that root. To me that is the crappiest professional in Kenya.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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AlphDoti
#51 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:12:30 PM
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I found the story of our African woman Saartjie Baartman very disturbing... Molested and died at early age of 25!!!

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r-7bKi5MFWI[/YOUTUBE]
AlphDoti
#52 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 7:42:17 PM
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THis one is more summarized story of Sarah...

harrydre
#53 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:53:40 AM
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Most of the argument here makes lots of sense, though I think the african need to control his population. There is no way you will provide quality education, food and life to 10 children as opposed to fewer.
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Nabwire
#54 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:04:51 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Most of the argument here makes lots of sense, though I think the african need to control his population. There is no way you will provide quality education, food and life to 10 children as opposed to fewer.


This is true. The problem is Planned Parenthood's objectives are not to improve quality of life of future generations, its objective is to rid the earth of "unwanted" and "feeble-minded" people. Why were they encouraging high school children to practice family planning? And surprise surprise, all the children were from black and Hispanic neighborhoods, I hope you watched the clip to the end. While in the same breathe, they are encouraging whites to have more children. I believe people should be left to make their own decisions, not coerced into making decisions that are loaded with ideologies of which you are not aware.
murchr
#55 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 5:58:15 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Most of the argument here makes lots of sense, though I think the african need to control his population. There is no way you will provide quality education, food and life to 10 children as opposed to fewer.


This is true. The problem is Planned Parenthood's objectives are not to improve quality of life of future generations, its objective is to rid the earth of "unwanted" and "feeble-minded" people. Why were they encouraging high school children to practice family planning? And surprise surprise, all the children were from black and Hispanic neighborhoods, I hope you watched the clip to the end. While in the same breathe, they are encouraging whites to have more children. I believe people should be left to make their own decisions, not coerced into making decisions that are loaded with ideologies of which you are not aware.


The good thing is that their efforts despite the money legislation etc are bearing no fruits, the white population is decreasing rapidly from 71% in 1990 to 57% in 2013, the minorities eg hispanics are filling the US. Will he force white people to get more kids? Soon we might see incentives to get babies
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Zanze
#56 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:33:57 AM
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Finally done. They included a lot of good historical information about eugenics which I'll follow up but I haven't changed my mind that the main goal here is to push the pro-life agenda. I firmly believe that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not to have a child and what this documentary is trying to do is insert religion and racial guilt into a situation that is already difficult enough. When a woman walks into one of those clinics, its no longer pro-life/choice, she knows exactly what she is doing and doesn't need it spelt out by some priest, activist or placard carrying idiot.

The documentary did not address the reasons why black women have abortions - inability to care for a child because of age, economic circumstance, pregnancies from assault (rape and incest) etc. When they demonize Plant Parenthood for providing BC and abortions do they really expect these women to keep their legs together and abstain from sex? Of course if they are honest with themselves they know this is impossible in today's America.

An unplanned pregnancy for a poor uneducated woman is likely to keep her from attaining an education and therefore a good job. She will probably have to hold more that one job meaning she has no time for her child. The child will then grow up without proper guidance, commit a crime, end up in jail and then we will complain that the white man is imprisoning our men!!! The cycle of poverty will never end unless Black people realize that they are their own worst enemy.
Zanze
#57 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:05:20 AM
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#58 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:41:37 AM
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As Africans or blacks , we should ensure our obligations and responsibilities are fulfilled accordingly. It's one thing to pop out innocent lives another one to provide decent environment while complaining about those deemed successful. If you wonder who is our enemies , don't bother looking elsewhere. in our midst. Meaning our kind.(you me him/her)
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Nabwire
#59 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:33:30 AM
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Zanze you have chosen to make this a pro-choice or pro-life debate, you obviously did not take anything offense in a sitting President of the US, calling for the extermination of its black citizens. You have ignored the plight of the many who underwent mandatory sterilizations, you have ignored the fact that millions of dollars are being poured into these abortion clinics ( its Planned, not Plant Parenthood by the way) You should consider thanking your mother for not having an abortion, because had she exercised her universal right to abortion, you wouldn't be typing this. I refuse to be the judge, jury and executioner of an unborn child, simply because we are in the 21st century and women are empowered! I refuse to be programmed and just reiterate other people's ideologies without thinking things through. This BS about women's rights, what about an innocent child's rights? Atleast as an adult you have the right to use protection, abstain or get your tubes tied, what choices does a foetus have? I refuse to sit back, and let human beings make flimsy decisions about someone else's life, as if they are God. Just thank your God that Margaret Sanger never poisoned your mother's mind while you were still in the womb.
And you are obviously not in the US, a single mother is one of the most well taken care of under US law. The government will practically pay most of your expenses if you are a single parent, please stop peddling the lie of the poor uneducated woman. Plus the other lie of abortions for rape victims, abortions due to rape are less than 1%, 95% of abortions are done as birth control.
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/rebekah8370/
Nabwire
#60 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:53:13 AM
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