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murchr
#181 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 1:21:20 AM
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#182 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 10:03:10 AM
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murchr wrote:
Kenya Power will be forced to compensate its customers for losses incurred during blackouts if a motion planned by Coast MPs sails through and becomes law.

Mvita MP Abdulswamad Nassir and his Lamu East counterpart Ali Shariff said they planned to table a motion in the National Assembly to push the electricity firm to offer compensation to Kenyans for losses arising from power outages.



I fully agree with this.

• The stuff stored in fridges.
• Unrecoverable subscription to pay tv and the likes lost.
• Advertisers losing viewers eg Tusker Project fame.
• Emotional trauma.

I hope advertisers or media could gang up and make them repay or rerun the lost media.

BBI will solve it :)
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#183 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 6:32:05 PM
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2012 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kenya Power will be forced to compensate its customers for losses incurred during blackouts if a motion planned by Coast MPs sails through and becomes law.

Mvita MP Abdulswamad Nassir and his Lamu East counterpart Ali Shariff said they planned to table a motion in the National Assembly to push the electricity firm to offer compensation to Kenyans for losses arising from power outages.



I fully agree with this.

• The stuff stored in fridges.
• Unrecoverable subscription to pay tv and the likes lost.
• Advertisers losing viewers eg Tusker Project fame.
• Emotional trauma.

I hope advertisers or media could gang up and make them repay or rerun the lost media.


Such mad bills can never pass... It reminds me of the bill to control interest rates! Sad
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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mwekez@ji
#184 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:10:31 AM
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@Kausha saw this one coming long before it has happened *applause @Kausha*

Kenya Power in Sh32bn loan deal after tariff boost
http://www.businessdailyafrica....74/-/t7d9ry/-/index.html
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Ericsson
#185 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:27:50 AM
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More loans more problems.
Dividends per share will be continue being low.
The company now has accumulated debt of kshs. 71 billion
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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mkonomtupu
#186 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:28:20 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
@Kausha saw this one coming long before it has happened *applause @Kausha*

Kenya Power in Sh32bn loan deal after tariff boost
http://www.businessdailyafrica....74/-/t7d9ry/-/index.html



it's cheaper and easier to obtain debt financing than equity financing. Do you expect Kenya power shareholders to give 32 billion each year to finance expansion? Can't happen, won't happen. A company must look for the optimal capital structure mixing debt and equity. Kenya power and kengen are retirement stocks just pick them up in small bits no hurry
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#187 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:09:05 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@Kausha saw this one coming long before it has happened *applause @Kausha*

Kenya Power in Sh32bn loan deal after tariff boost
http://www.businessdailyafrica....74/-/t7d9ry/-/index.html



it's cheaper and easier to obtain debt financing than equity financing. Do you expect Kenya power shareholders to give 32 billion each year to finance expansion? Can't happen, won't happen. A company must look for the optimal capital structure mixing debt and equity. Kenya power and kengen are retirement stocks just pick them up in small bits no hurry


RUN! The debt is just too much, unless its how one wants to help in building the economy by being a shareholder.
Unlike ARM where they have high debt/debt instrument but the equity side doesnt suffer like in KPLC, Kengen. Its just throwing money away unless serious shareholder focussed management of these firms starts.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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#188 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:31:14 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@Kausha saw this one coming long before it has happened *applause @Kausha*

Kenya Power in Sh32bn loan deal after tariff boost
http://www.businessdailyafrica....74/-/t7d9ry/-/index.html



it's cheaper and easier to obtain debt financing than equity financing. Do you expect Kenya power shareholders to give 32 billion each year to finance expansion? Can't happen, won't happen. A company must look for the optimal capital structure mixing debt and equity. Kenya power and kengen are retirement stocks just pick them up in small bits no hurry


RUN! The debt is just too much, unless its how one wants to help in building the economy by being a shareholder.
Unlike ARM where they have high debt/debt instrument but the equity side doesnt suffer like in KPLC, Kengen. Its just throwing money away unless serious shareholder focussed management of these firms starts.


kengen equity:debt ratio is 30:70 which is the standard model of capital structure. Kenya power has its own other issues. I always like companies that are restructuring their balance sheet that's where good bargains come around
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#189 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 3:27:53 PM
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mkonomtupu
#190 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 3:58:08 PM
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Good Radiance from Chirchir.

http://www.standardmedia...r-and-erc-bosses-picked



Applause Applause Applause quite refreshing from Chirchir
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#191 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:46:29 PM
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I met Ben Chumo last year. He's a very switched on guy. Let's hope he can deliver and I hope political interference will be reduced this time.

BBI will solve it :)
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murchr
#192 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 3:06:52 AM
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The Star wrote:
KENYA Power has forecast a Sh15 billion pre-tax profit in the 2014/2015 financial year, which would give shareholders the highest return since the company’s establishment 22 years ago. The forecast is based on good performance by the power retailer in the last two fiscal years. “Our profit has been rising because we are getting more customers and electricity supply has become more reliable. I will not be surprised if we make Sh15 billion at the end of this financial year,” managing director Ben Chumo told the Star in a telephone interview.


Business Daily wrote:
Kenya Power has signed a Sh445 million deal with a consortium of a Chinese electrical firm and an engineering unit of Singapore’s government for the laying of electricity lines in five key towns across the country.


The Star Dec 9 wrote:
Kenya Power has entered into an agreement to sell 30MW of power to Rwanda in July 2015.

The sale will boost Rwanda's supply that is hampered by generation capacity shortage, MD and CEO Ben Chumo said on Tuesday.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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The optimist
#193 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 11:20:22 AM
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Let nothing spoil the momentum.
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#194 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 1:50:30 PM
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Waiting for 20s
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stock.enigma
#195 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 1:59:44 PM
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When is the final dividend of sh. 0.30 being paid?
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#196 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 2:01:25 PM
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When is the final dividend of sh. 0.30 being paid?
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mthaka
#197 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 2:45:35 PM
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Announced a Final dividend of Kes.0.30 on 22-October-2014. Books Closure 19-December-2014. Payment 27-February-2015.
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jwatesh
#198 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 2:57:43 PM
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I hope it doesnt rise. i havent reached my goal of stocking up these shares. Plus few are selling
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streetwise
#199 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 3:27:41 PM
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Dont worry at 20 i will sell to you
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MaichBlack
#200 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 3:30:48 PM
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jwatesh wrote:
I hope it doesnt rise. i havent reached my goal of stocking up these shares. Plus few are selling

I completed my buying sometimes around September (At 14/=) but last week I saw a trade done at 13/= and was considering jumping back in.

I am loading up on select stocks when I get some cash. Some of these stocks will make a very happy man in years to come. Take Kenya power for example. Look at the earnings per share. Cheaper power (geothermal being added to the grid). Higher sales (people using more power because it is cheaper, more connections - rural electrification, street lighting, exporting power - starting with Rwanda, probably more industrial production going forward with cheaper more stable power etc.).

Once Kenya power is done with capital investments and with higher profits, how much do you think they will be paying as dividends? How much do you think the share will be going for at that time?? Tafakari hayo.

But this is for long timers like yours truly.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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