God made Adam and Eve,not Adam and Steve.....actually,he made man of His own image.If He wanted there to be gays,He would not have plucked Adam's rib.He would have photo-copied Adam. He refers to Eve as "your" helper. Someone who is screwing your ass isn't helping you for heaven's sake.

Masukuma, how can you be so rational and brilliant on most issues and so obtuse on others such as this one? You can't compare polygamy to homosexuality, one of them is a choice and the other is inherent. That's apples and oranges. Polygamy is a choice and it's wrong. If you decide to marry, be with that one woman that you marry otherwise don't get married if you want to be with more than one woman. Polygamy is just a sick vice used by African disgusting perverts to officially and unapologetically cheat on their wives. Women are not property to acquire as many as you want. Where is the integrity in having more than one wife? Surely, this is the 21st century, we need to emancipate ourselves from these archaic traditions. That's why white folk have a disdain for polygamy, because it's glorified cheating.

These old African polygamous men just want to have their cake and eat it too, but if you are a real man, you will marry one woman and love that one and only woman. Don't disrespect your wife like that by bringing another woman into your home under the guise of polygamy, that 's just wrong on so many levels. Surely, our generation needs to rid ourselves of some of these despicable traditions. Marry for love and you can only love one person, so love that one person, anything else is just being perverted.

I know most people don't believe that homosexuality is innate, but to each their own, i won't debate anybody on that. It's futile so let's not even go there.

Frankly, @Hamburglar isn't making a different argument from @Masukuma. Only preferences are inverted, and the former seems to have more political power than the latter. Hahahaha! That's why one can say the other is 'obtuse'.

And this debate seems to be thus structured everywhere I turn. It's a higly political conversation and the threat of might is right, and those who can, do.

Let me give some examples. 1952: Kenya, state of emergency, Africans are being killed. In fact, over a thousand people died (a parallel of PEV?). Dedan Kimathi is the hero. But in England, Alan Turing is being chemically castrated because he was gay. Interestingly Google had to subject me to a Turing test as I was 'preparing' this post. Some 60 years later the Queen pardons Turing, and also compels her former colonies to adopt her enlightened values. Even despite the fact we are still wondering where our hero, Dedan, was buried.

The African is now more disoriented than ever. Of Hamburglar and Masukuma, who is the African? None. The African doesn't seem to exist. There's nothing like 'African' position and 'European' position. Such categories belong to those who can't do. If independence is a good thing why shouldn't the queen pardon Dedan Kimathi? We are yet to have a sincere conversation on our least of problems.

The other argument that homosexuality is innate and therefore and polygamy morally wrong and not innate is laughable. I suspect there's more evidence for polygamy being innate than for homosexuality being innate.

We are splitting hairs.

Again you are over reacting, google turnt out, this is something that is so widespread that there's a name for it. Once again I have nothing against gay people, there's no hate trust me!
I think you are missing the point by a mile. Here's a link
http://healthmaven.blogs...r-depopulating-two.html
This is bigger than just gay rights, actually I would say gay people are just a means to an end. Eugenicists like Turner have said that the it would be preferable if the world was 90% less populated!! Think about that for a minute.

If this is the Church version, then see how this matter has torn the Church. We can't simply rush even to the holy books for a quick answer. Not any more. We have to find ourselves first. As humans.