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Rank: Member Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 120 Location: KENYA
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@ all,as of last week stanchart lowered their interest rate for unsecured personal loans from 19.75% to 16%. (RB). I have not checked with them to see when this will be effected,but may be someone here has. People,whats your take on this? Is it going to be sustained at this level or they want to suck us into the vicious cycle of debts?
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/18/2007 Posts: 217
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Litro,this is how its done: 16% on the loan,3%negotiation fee,3%legal fee,and 2% insurance . sum total=24% take it or leave it,that is what you pay them.
And should you repay the same earlier than agreed then you are liable to pay them another 3%of the amount outstanding for a loan cleared in lumpsum before 50%of the loan is cleared in the normal manner.
Tell me if that is so different from shylocking?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 120 Location: KENYA
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Someone moved my post from investments to pennywise but...hai(t)dhuru may be i wasnt sure where to post it! @ Wote,thanx man bt am more confused. All along from my earlier experience with Kenyan banks,the hidden charges and what not are levied on the principal that you borrow. They are not lumped up together with the interest rate,that is,16% does not translate to 24%. You still payback @ 16%? I stand to be corrected by the banking experts in the house.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/6/2007 Posts: 1,177 Location: Nairobi - Kenya
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@litro i think the 16% doesnt include the insurance & the negotiation fees which are one off charges.. you've heard me.. When you hear what I say, you will not understand. When you see what I do, you will not comprehend
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/18/2007 Posts: 217
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Litro,the figures i gave you are extracted from my loan given to me by K.C.B at the base rate of 15%when i realised what i had just signed,i decided to repay the same in one installment and that is when i got to see 3% early repayment.
Ask them to do for you what they call loan amortization and the picture will be very clear.
wote
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2008 Posts: 436 Location: illobi
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Litro,May I suggest you hear it from the horses mouth? Call Stanchart up & post your findings here. The number is 3293900 Randomly insane A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2008 Posts: 436 Location: illobi
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Just called them and; Insurance 0.3% Processing 3% Legal fee - N/A Borrow upto KES 3M Free Loan transfer Repayment upto 60 Month They come to you i.e. At your door service Need More details? Randomly insane A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/6/2007 Posts: 1,177 Location: Nairobi - Kenya
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@k22 and what do you mean by ''free loan transfer''? you've heard me.. When you hear what I say, you will not understand. When you see what I do, you will not comprehend
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2008 Posts: 436 Location: illobi
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@Kamaa,If you have a loan with another institution you can transfer the loan balance at no extra charge,and enjoy the 16% interest rate offer...... 3293900 for more details Randomly insane A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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This may look enticing but I believe the 16% in not fixed i.e it can go up...without notice?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 120 Location: KENYA
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@ K22 just called them as well and the terms and conditions that apply are as follows;
1. Arrangement fee (Processing fee) @ 2.5 % of the principal.
2. Insurance fee @ 0.3%.
3. Free loan transfer (if any) from your current institution.
4. Copy of ID,Coloured passport,intoduction letter from employer stating your current salary,statement from your bank for the past 6 months showing the proceeds from your employer,if you dont bank with them.
5. 16% interest repayment rate which is subject to the prevailing economic conditions. *****Can change if the base lending rate of stanchart changes.
6. All in all,i think its a good move by stanchart,but all we want is,certainity that the interest rate is not going to skyrocket to 24% in 6 months time. and just like they said,its dependent on the prevailing economic conditions,which are out of their control.
Your take on it guys- but more on the economic prospects?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/6/2007 Posts: 1,177 Location: Nairobi - Kenya
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something is not clear on this 'free loan transfer' thing... if today you got a loan with bbk and you want to migrate to stanchart,is the latter going to cater for the early repayment penalty charged on the borrower by bbk? you've heard me.. When you hear what I say, you will not understand. When you see what I do, you will not comprehend
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 35
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also: when one transfers a loan from BBK which was charging 18% interest,will the rates drop to 16% as soon as one moves to stanchart?
retirement at 40.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2008 Posts: 436 Location: illobi
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@Kamaa I think You will have to pay the charges incured at BBK for early repayment.... i think.. @3Piece Yes,the rates drop to 16% Randomly insane A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 120 Location: KENYA
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@ Kamaa..i will have to concur with you that this free loan transfer thingy is not quite clear. But i suppose,initially they used to charge you if you transfered your debts from your current bank to them. This sounds strange because it is like asking your mechanic to pay you inorder for them to service your car. But i am sure if you transfered your current loan to stanchart,your ex bank will charge you for that....may be breach of contract??? i am not sure.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/18/2008 Posts: 796
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@Wote...
You can't just add up the percentages and yet the computations are not the same... The interest on the loan is on a reducing scale while the processing and insurance are on a fixed scale... noting that the insurance is per year,the rate is closer to 19.4%....
But that is not what borrowers should be afraid of.... but rather the variable interest rate... remember the economic conditions will be defined by the bank such that even if the minister of finance declares 10% growth in the economy,the bank may still go the other way and raise the rate to 25%... However,I think it's a good deal for a short term loan (6 months - 1year)...this must be agreen upon upfront as Stanchart applies 5% penalty on the outstanding amount for early payments......
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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Stanchart need to reduce the interest rate for existing borrowers as well. The new rate applies to new borrowers only. God is good Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/5/2007 Posts: 627
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On free loan transfers .....
Assume you have a loan balance of Kshs 200k with bbk (i.e. after principal + interest for the period of loan - amount already paid), and you intend to take a loan of Kshs 500k with stanchart.
To transfer the loan,stanchart will give you a loan of Kshs 710k. With that you can repay the bbk outstanding balance of Kshs 200k plus the 5% penalty for early repayment of 10K and have your intended Kshs 500k! They (stanchart) will not charge you for that and they can even make the payment for you on request! Note that the interest rate will be calculated on the 710k and not the 500k!
Capisce?
Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/28/2006 Posts: 91
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@Sasha
ooh; so they loan me the penalties charged by my current creditor/bank incase of early repayment,i initially thought there is some arrangement between the banks to waive the penalty when i transfer the loan from bank A to B.... now I know.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/28/2006 Posts: 91
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@Robinhood
I believe the interest rate will go down even for existing (variable interest) loans. unless you have a fixed rate interest loan. which one is yours?
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