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#41 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:27:54 PM
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It's impractical if you consider adoption costs,unnecessary transaction costs and time constraints.I don't see it helping with corruption.For me it's taxes and transport statistics which also brings up security/privacy concerns.
murchr
#42 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:33:10 PM
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alma wrote:
murchr lets tell Kenyans the truth shall we.

There are only 3 ways that the matatu guys know about

1. bebapay
2. lipa na mpesa

Do you have another way? Please advice on this thread. Even I would like to know

This is like the gov't coming up with a law that says, ALL kenyans must use Mash Poa, because they have never had an accident.

Sure its a good way to help matatu owners, but don't you think that they should concentrate on hiring honest employees? Who told them that now they will not be stolen from.

It like now saying that you won't die from a bus accident since you pay with Bebapay or only travel during the night.

I know i've confused you. But honestly, you can't force me to use a private companies mode of payments. It's illegal and this law will go nowhere.

The way to make people use digital is to ensure that there are policies that support that. Not telling people that Jesus is coming on 24th July so you must all throw away your tungotores and use bebapay. That is silly to be honest.


Being that there are two ways that u know doesnt mean that those are the only ways and there can never be another way. People come up with ideas daily.

Secondly, I haven't come across anyone whose forehead is written "Honest" so a business man will jump into every if not any opportunity that they perceive would be profitable to them. To them, they are thinking of how they will do away with that extra tout, honest or not.

Just a question, do u like having cash in your wallet? do u feel safe with it walking on Kirinyaga road? Most people I know would rather have Mpesa. Look at how those matatus that go to Nyeri Meru (Tea room) operate.
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alma
#43 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:40:32 PM
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murchr I will retire from this argument.

You have it in your head that I'm against a cashless society. I'm not

I'm against a society where the GOVERNMENT decides when I should spend cash and when I shouldn't. That's none of their business. Next they'll be telling you to stop using debit cards and instead start using credit cards.

There should be options for everyone to spend as they wish. Options for business people to choose their prefered business partners.

Not being forced to use equetee and safaricom and making it a law. You know no one else would be "licensed" unless they are chinese.

This is corruption and taxation rolled in one. Something that jubilee is becoming very adept at.

I will go retire and wait for the day when I'm forced as a citizen to use mpesa because njumbiree knows better and its good for me.
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murchr
#44 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:57:22 PM
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No gov has forced anyone to use any platform the regulations that have been set were formulated by the sector together with the gov. Safcom and Equity are just early birds catching worms. Those other laggards will complain later.
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maka
#45 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 9:00:41 PM
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murchr wrote:
No gov has forced anyone to use any platform the regulations that have been set were formulated by the sector together with the gov. Safcom and Equity are just early birds catching worms. Those other laggards will complain later.


Its wrong no matter how you look at it...where was the common mans input?
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Lolest!
#46 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 9:36:45 PM
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This is interesting! Some diasporans in Britain must've lied to me that the economy there is largely cashless. That they only use cards. That it's used by intelligence guys to track people...@drunkard/rollout ako wapi? He once said mpesa sounds great to us here in dusty Africa because we use cash. According to him the yanks are cashless. I'm confused
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maka
#47 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 9:45:23 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
This is interesting! Some diasporans in Britain must've lied to me that the economy there is largely cashless. That they only use cards. That it's used by intelligence guys to track people...@drunkard/rollout ako wapi? He once said mpesa sounds great to us here in dusty Africa because we use cash. According to him the yanks are cashless. I'm confused


People pay cash bana ...
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alma
#48 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 9:47:19 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
This is interesting! Some diasporans in Britain must've lied to me that the economy there is largely cashless. That they only use cards. That it's used by intelligence guys to track people...@drunkard/rollout ako wapi? He once said mpesa sounds great to us here in dusty Africa because we use cash. According to him the yanks are cashless. I'm confused


Largely cashless doesn't mean ban cash. Using cards doesn't mean creating a law that says never use cash. You would see riots in these so called digital countries.

This is an issue of the rights of a citizen to transact with what he has available and what he feels right for him.

If you ask me, digital Kenyans are just plain crazy. Why would you want anyone holding your information in one card just to prove that you are developed?

Gov't largess is when they want you to have cards for everything you do. Your ID to have all the information including your birthright, the property you own, girls you slept with etc.

What IT guys in Kenya don't understand is that this is already possible. But these "developed" citizens have refused gov't interference in their lives and will fight it.

No right thinking person would every allow gov't to be in control of ALL the information. I don't trust njumbiree as far as I can throw it. So now they will know what time I entered the bus to see my gashungwa in Meru?

Now we are starting with entering public buses with a technology that Google is still testing.

Hii ndio ubeberu mambo leo.

This country won't die if some of us, are allowed to use cash to enter buses.

But it shall surely die when we allow gov't to dictate how citizens spend their money and at what time and format.

The biggest lie to say that you thought that the rest of the world only uses cards. That's a big lie even the movie you watched last night proves that you're a liar.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
dunkang
#49 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 9:47:31 PM
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@murchr, i think you are not understanding @alma and my concerns. I personally do not oppose war against corruption or employees theft. No. All am worried about is the SUSPISCIOUS way that the GoK is involving itself in TOTALLY PRIVATE business affairs. Its suspect because whether i carry people for free or for a goat or for bonga points has nothing to do with the GoK. At night, whether you lock your house door or not, the GoK has no business in telling you what to do.

I fail to understand why you can't see this is a taxation plot or/and a ploy to formation of a 'law protected' CARTEL in the public transport sector locking out small investors. The tax am most worried about is VAT on fare.
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kysse
#50 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 10:05:31 PM
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Well,in that case I went digital long ago when began paying fare by mpesa 2 yrs ago.
Have always held the notion that,as long a there is no law on the acceptable mode of payment in public vehicle then any means of transaction is acceptable and refusal to accept my money by the crew should not be my wahala.
Never faced any opposition,some have let me travel free.



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